Olympics: Amateur Vs Proffesional

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  1. TOR

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    Where do most stand on this? I'm gonna have to say I'm ready to put the best against the best, let the pros do their thing. Interested to see others opine.
     
  2. clone2011

    clone2011 Well-Known Member

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    I think most Olympic athletes, technically, are "pros" due to their sponsorships, World Championship tours, etc. The Skiing World Cup Tour is essentially a league of individual athletes. True amateurs don't get any sponsorship money, but the athletes like Bode Miller, Lindsey Vonn, Shaun White, Apolo Ohno all make a living off of their sponsorship deals (and winnings). Then you have the athletes in the smaller sports such as curling where they are amateurs--none of them are raking in 6+ figure Nike/Burton/Salomon deals.

    If you're talking about something like Hockey, that's a touchy area. The NHL puts its season on hold for two weeks, and it's a nightmare for the league. They get minimal publicity during that time as all of the Olympic guys are associated with their country, not their league team, and the schedule length does not change in Olympic years. They play the same number of games in the same number of days whether it's an Olympic season or not. Could the NHL change their schedule during Olympic years? Yes. Could the Olympics just go back to amateurs? Yes.
     
  3. Tank

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    I read somewhere that this is the last year that the NHL is going to put their season on hold for 2 weeks due to the Olympics. I wish I could find that article now though. If that is the case, then who would play.

    I for one would rather watch players from the AHL (Triple-A of the NHL) from the US or any of the European league teams (Russia, Germany, Norway, etc...) play in the Olympics. These players can showcase their talents and possibly get picked up by a NHL team or at least possibly make their skills better to make it to the NHL.

    I still consider people like Vonn and White as amateur's b/c they are not signing contracts to play in these sports. If it wasn't for endorsements, they wouldn't get paid at all. So, for me, keep the Olympics amateur.
     
  4. dtclones

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    I love how the all the best American NBA players come together to play basketball in the summer Olympics. It's like the ultimate fantasy team. I am all for keeping pros in the Olympics. And it's true, most Olympic athletes make money one way or another with endorsements and what not, the Olympic committee might as well leave no restrictions on eligability.
     
  5. Tre4ISU

    Tre4ISU Well-Known Member

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    I want the best of the best from everywhere. I don't want there to be question.

    What I really hate are these "against the man" snowboarders who will claim over and over again Shaun White is not the best. First off, they basically hate him because he is not rebellious and he is a nice guy who is people friendly therefor a sellout. Second of all, if there is someone better get his *** out there because I wanna see the ****.
     
  6. cyclonedave25

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    I want the Olympics to consist of the best of the best athletes in the entire world. I don't care what their "title" is, I just want the most elite athletes going against each other.
     
  7. deadeyededric

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    If that was the case in hockey we would never get a gold medal again. The talent level in those leagues are far superior to the AHL. It is similar to Japanese baseball compared to Triple-A. Malkin highly considered going back to Russia to play last year. He is one of the 3 best players in the NHL. Anyway, point being, you would be taking a window of players mainly say 18-24 from the US. Collectively we could not field a team with those players to compete with Russia, Sweeden, and the Czech's from the same age group they are that much better.
     
  8. cyrocksmypants

    cyrocksmypants Well-Known Member

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    Wouldn't work anymore. Look at basketball. In other countries, some of these kids join a pro team at the age of 16/17. Who are other countries going to get to play aren't pros? Are we going to consider only the NBA pros and other leagues around the world not?

    There are too many gray areas that I doubt anyone even wants to attempt to touch.
     
  9. cyingreen

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    Amateurism in sports is a lofty ideal. That's all it is: an ideal. Since way back when socialist countries had state supported athletes, the notion of amateur athletics has been diminished. It's almost invisible now (except for curling, LOL) with the endorsement deals the more popular sports offer.
    Keep the Olympics open to all athletes.
     
  10. VeloClone

    VeloClone Well-Known Member

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    I used to be a big purist on the whole amaturism ideal. When I started digging deeper into it I found out its basis wasn't quite so lofty.

    In a nutshell amaturism rules were put in place to make sure that those with means could participate while the poor who would probably have to use their skills to make a living would be eliminated.

    That soured me on the whole thing. Its kind of ironic that the communist countries used this to gain a huge advantage.

    Now that amaturism is pretty much eliminated from the equation, I wish they would give Jim Thorpe back his gold medals.
     

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