No Counter Offer?

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  1. CYKOFAN

    CYKOFAN Well-Known Member

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    13 sports reports that ISU was given no chance to counter offer. This sounds personal, and I don't believe for a second that Cael told Pollard he has a better chance to win a national title at PSU. That makes no sense.
     
  2. Jeremy

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    More and more facts/rumors will come out over the coming weeks. But it is true that ISU had no chance to counter, even though they were prepared to do so.
     
  3. michaelrr1

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    I heard that too....along with the Pollard statement about how they talked all week long, and what ISU could do to keep him. I don't believe for a second that Pollard had no opportunity at all to make a counter offer.
     
  4. Cyclonesrule91

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    **** Sanderson. Wasn't about money my ******* ***. I just watched channel 8 news about it and Sanderson can now kiss my ***.....good riddance.
     
  5. CYKOFAN

    CYKOFAN Well-Known Member

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    Cyclonesrule91- I think Cael has a little more cred as a great Cyclone than JP. I'll always love Cael for coming to ISU and giving us the greatest wrestling performance, if not the greatest athletic performance, in NCAA history. What has Pollard given us but bad football and basketball and overpaid coaches?
     
  6. Kyle

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    Which indicates to me that it was about more than money. If it is just about the money then you entertain all offers. I am really hoping it was money, but have a sinking feeling that it was not.
     
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  7. kingcy

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    Like what? Lets just get to the bottom of this so we can get over it.
     
  8. Jeremy

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    They talked before he was offered the job and money by PSU - they didn't have a chance to counter offer before CS resigned. They couldn't counter offer before the offer was made.
     
  9. ketelmeister

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    Maybe Cael isn't the kind of guy who would use a job offer to gain leverage in his current job. I respect people who don't play games, and maybe that was the case here. We don't know.
     
  10. Cyclonesrule91

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    I don't know....... I was kind of withholding judgement until I heard some facts, but watching that interview and all I saw was a POS blowing ISU under the table. Wasn't about the money (looks away from the camera), I will always love ISU (looks away from the camera), It's just what's best for my family (looks away from the camera). All he's saying is **** on ISU and I am suddenly pissed off. I'm not even a big wrestling fan.

    **** him
     
  11. TarHeelHawk

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    Are you saying that Cael turned in his resignation before Penn State formally offered him the job?
     
  12. Zaux

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    i agree completely- if there is any "behind the scenes" crap then lets here it now-

    ISU is a far more reputable school in wrestling than Penn St- it's about the money imo- there's nothing wrong with taking a huge pay raise to do the same job cuz we all would prolly do the same, but atleast admit it is all im saying-

    as much as id love to throw in a "he's afraid of brands" or some other jovial ribbing along those lines, i really think they(to steal a line from the Godfather) made him an offer he couldnt refuse
     
  13. Jeremy

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    No. CS and JP talked. Then CS was offered by PSU. CS resigned before JP could counter offer.
     
  14. JonDMiller

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    I think a big part of this was not being second fiddle in the state. I say that because of what Cael said to Jamie, and Jamie said in the statement, with regards to kids growing up out east and wanting to wrestle for Penn State.
     
  15. JonDMiller

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    Oh yeah, and the $$
     
  16. Tornado man

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    If that is true - wow. Cael didn't want to be here, and didn't even want to know how much JP could sweeten the pot...
    If that is true - this was personal.
     
  17. TarHeelHawk

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    Wow. Thats interesting.
     
  18. kingcy

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    If that is the case then Cael is not the person I thought he was. It was in his hands to get those instate kids away from Iowa. It was in his hands to win NCAA titles. It was in his hands to kick Iowa's ***. It was in his hands to make Iowa play second fiddle. Instead he quits when the going gets a little tough.
     
  19. Cyclonesrule91

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    This all had to do with the fact that sanderson couldn't hold Brands jock strap when it comes to coaching and he couldn't stand the fact of being #2, and a distant #2 at that. I can't believe I just said that................

    The truth hurts.
     
  20. JonDMiller

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    "He said the high school talent in Pennsylvania and surrounding states is the best in the country and the kids in that area grow up wanting to wrestle for the Nittany Lions."

    That quote says a lot to me.
     

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