Nebraska and Kansas State speed

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  1. ISUonthemove

    ISUonthemove Well-Known Member

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    Just looking at Rivals and saw that Nebraska has got 12 guys coming in that run a 4.5 or faster. And KSU has 15 guys running a 4.55 or faster. WE've got 6 or 7.

    Do you guys think this is gonna be a problem? I know we're gonna have speed in a lot of skilled positions, and our line is a little smaller than previous years but I'd like to see us recruit a little more speed everywhere else.
     
  2. frontrangeclone

    frontrangeclone Well-Known Member

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    Gee, I don't know... Neb and KState have seemingly always been bigger and faster than ISU, and was that a problem? I don't think they rolled up 50, 60 or even 70+ points on the Clones by being collectively slower or weaker! .....I guess looking at the all time records vs. these and other conference foes tells the answer. Even though ISU may be slower or smaller etc... I'm hoping that the new attitude the coaching staff is trying to sell to the team will help them overcome size/speed deficiencies. I'm pretty sure in future GC recruiting classes, there will be a lot of speed.
     
  3. bootcy

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    K-State signed 32 guys this year where we only signed 25. Also, out emphasis this class was on the O-Line and D-Line, where it is rare to see a sub 4.5 forty. The skill position players we did get have speed as well as many already in our system. If Bibbs comes in and takes over at MLB, our entire starting lineup other than the O-Line and D-Line, and TE run sub 4.55 forties, according to their forty times when they were recruited.
     
  4. jdoggivjc

    jdoggivjc Well-Known Member

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    While 40 times are a good indicator, I'll take game speed over 40 speed any day. I'd rather be fast on gameday than be fast on paper...
     
  5. 9seven

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    Neb. and KSU also had coaches with a full recruiting cycle, especially Neb. Gene put his class together in a much shorter time.
     
  6. mj4cy

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    I'll take guys on Defense that can run fast laterally over north and south speed.
     
  7. Knownothing

    Knownothing Well-Known Member

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    Yes it will be a problem. Just like it has for the last 100 years at Iowa State. Until we recruit faster players it will be a problem.
     
  8. ISUclones33

    ISUclones33 Well-Known Member

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    well... Allen Bell runs a 4.26 hand time
    and Wallace Franklin told me that his hand time is 4.24 and electric 4.35

    we are getting there, but 40 time isnt everything.. except wheen poor RJ was about to score in nebraska for us
     
  9. 9seven

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    If those two times are accurate, and i'm not saying your a liar. We have the two fastest players in D1 football. Hands down the two fastest players in college football. With that speed they will be in the NFL.
     
  10. ISUclones33

    ISUclones33 Well-Known Member

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    i dont know Allens Digital time, but Wallace Franklin is pretty set on his Digital 4.35 and hand timed 4.24...and he looks just that fast in his videos, when he burns someone deep he calls it "mossing" the defense hes alot like randy moss i guess.. i think the attitiude may be included, but oh well.. its a winning one
     
  11. 9seven

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    Well i am excited because having that speed is such a weapon. Hopefully those two can return kicks and do damn near everything. You can tell Gene is recruiting speed more then MAC did, expect our next class to have more burners.
     
  12. ISUclones33

    ISUclones33 Well-Known Member

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    not only are they fast.... Allen Bell is a 6'2 Corner Back, and Wallace Franklin is 6'3 WR
     
  13. Wesley

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    Did anyone think to compare the shuttlecock times for the lineman? That spells agility versus stodgy.
     
  14. Wesley

    Wesley Well-Known Member

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    If wallace is that fast and is on the field, Blythe may get their second best cover guy. That means money.
     
  15. Knownothing

    Knownothing Well-Known Member

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    I hope Walllace is good but Blythe will never get someones second cornerback.
     
  16. BigM

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    he might if their 1 corner is really fast their gonna put him on franlin to compensate fpr speed they will probably either double blythe with a safety and the 2 corner or put a bigger slower corner on him to combat size
     
  17. ISUclones33

    ISUclones33 Well-Known Member

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    or send Wallace Franklin deep and let blythe come in underneath, much like we did with flynn, Blythe or Davis would go deep and Flynn would be wide open underneath, it would be nice to use Todd in clutch situations like that
     
  18. arganbright2

    arganbright2 Well-Known Member

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    The only 40 times I trust are at the NFL combine. Once an athlete is set off from his starting position, the timer starts and it stops the second a player breaks the line at the end. Players that report their own time are usually quite a ways off. Read Jose Canseco's book about steroids, he claims he ran a 3.9 second 40 when he was in the minor leagues.
     
  19. ejames1656

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    Right on, and a very good situation that may bring. Blythe,Sumerall get 1&2 Wallace matches up with a safety or OLB when he is in the slot... that could be dangerous..
     

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