Re: Irving
I know some PhD's with poor judgment, so...How are people that dumb in college.
I know some PhD's with poor judgment, so...How are people that dumb in college.
There are some really dumb ****s here if you believe what you say that he may not have been a part of the problem, he was just holding a sign. You don't have to throw a bottle at a cop to be a part of a riot. Based on the pic alone he should be kicked off the team, and if video proves anything else, expelled.
How would you feel if your son, daughter or wife was driving home and got hit because another driver never saw the missing stop sign? How can you even think of defending somebody that does something so stupid, clearly illegal, and just plain ****ed up? Athlete or not, he deserves what is likely coming.
i continue to lose faith in humanity when I see all these comments blaming police, defending rioters, defending spectators (wake up, they do contribute to the riot just by being present, psychology and laws state so), and saying that it's stupid to cancel VEISHEA. Some people have their priorities and moral compasses calibrated towards the wrong setting.
I agree with a lot of what you say except the part where just being present makes you a rioter. Thats a way too general and naive statement.
There are some really dumb ****s here if you believe what you say that he may not have been a part of the problem, he was just holding a sign. You don't have to throw a bottle at a cop to be a part of a riot. Based on the pic alone he should be kicked off the team, and if video proves anything else, expelled.
How would you feel if your son, daughter or wife was driving home and got hit because another driver never saw the missing stop sign? How can you even think of defending somebody that does something so stupid, clearly illegal, and just plain ****ed up? Athlete or not, he deserves what is likely coming.
i continue to lose faith in humanity when I see all these comments blaming police, defending rioters, defending spectators (wake up, they do contribute to the riot just by being present, psychology and laws state so), and saying that it's stupid to cancel VEISHEA. Some people have their priorities and moral compasses calibrated towards the wrong setting.
Being at the scene doesn't make one guilty. You can actually be outside at night. I know a few who were on Welch when the mob showed up. So if there is a pic of them, they should be arrested?
The guilty ones are the one who actually did damage. I can't imagine a photo of Irving holding a sign is any type of evidence of wrong-doing. It puts him at the scene. If witnesses come forward and say they saw him pull it down, etc then that is a different story. But he may have legitimately picked it up and said something like, "holy ****, they tore out a sign."
Let's focus on those who actually did damage. There is plenty of video out there.
Why would they be out driving around in the middle of a riot?
My gosh there's a lot of holier than thou judgmental ****ers on this board today! And probably not one who was actually near the situation to know exactly what happened. But sure, go ahead and judge based on relatively no information. You Halkeye fans should all get together sometime (at least that's who you sound like).
I'm pretty sure there are still legit reasons to be driving at 11pm and last I checked my in-dash navigation unit doesn't give me an alert for oncoming riots in the roadway.
Agreed. How about we let the facts come out before we dig the guys grave and start calling for him to be kicked off the team.My gosh there's a lot of holier than thou judgmental ****ers on this board today! And probably not one who was actually near the situation to know exactly what happened. But sure, go ahead and judge based on relatively no information. You Halkeye fans should all get together sometime (at least that's who you sound like).
Not necessarily a rioter, but studies about mob mentality prove that as the crowd of spectators grows, the intensity and mob mentality of the rioters turns increasingly violent and/or vocal. If 5 people watch, it isn't a riot, if 500 people watch, a few are going to join in and the rest contribute to the environment whether they intend to or not.
Respectfully, that is hogwash. You are no longer presumed innocent if you are standing there with a grin on your face holding a stop sign in the middle of the riot. If I'm seen holding a bloody knife over a dead body when somebody hears a scream, should I not be a suspect?
I have said this.You know, no one has mentioned that, and it feels dirty to speculate. But he was there, and he was a part of the crowd. I would say he's definitely paying a higher price for it than anyone else involved.