how many schools keep a coach

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  1. isuforlife

    isuforlife Well-Known Member

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    with the record Rhoads has?
     
  2. CycloneErik

    CycloneErik Well-Known Member

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    How many schools have our overall record?

    For our tradition, his record isn't bad.
     
  3. cycloneinpdx

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    We aren't OU or Texas. Honestly, if next year is like this, maybe we look at other options. But don't forget, even with this year, he has gone bowling in 3/5 years... that would be a vast improvement over the majority of our history. Next year, youth won't be an excuse, so if we go 2-10 next year, sure we might leave him.

    Just don't forget who we are. We have a long way to go before we can expect another good coach to roll into town. Even K-State, with the vast success of Snyder, had trouble replacing him with another coach that was high quality, until he came back. We might want more, but ISU is a tough, tough place to coach, and it's not a dream destination for a lot of coaches... and it won't help the program to get in another hotshot coordinator (like Chizik) who comes in for 2/3 years and finds a better job, and continue that... we need some measure of stability.

    Right now, Rhoads is the better than anyone we could expect to hire, and he's earned at least one more year... it would be a shame to lose an otherwise good, committed coach over one down year and have nothing better to replace him with (and lets be honest, until this year, news that Rhoads left for another job would but this whole site on suicide watch).
     
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  4. pourcyne

    pourcyne Well-Known Member

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    You tell 'em, Coach!
     
  5. Wesley

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    Will we see a home win this year?
     
  6. clonedude

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    All of them do when they are in our financial situation and still owe their coach as much as we do to Rhoads.

    How many times does it need to be said that ISU cannot afford to fire Rhoads. It isn't going to happen. It can't happen. Financially, it c-a-n-n-o-t happen.

    The best we can hope for is to get rid of a bunch of assistants. But I'm doubtful if we'll even see that? Rhoads is pretty darn stubborn and comfy with his friends underneath him I'm afraid.
     
  7. cycloneinpdx

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    We get Kansas and TCU at home, we should beat KU and TCU is not a team we should be afraid of at home, even in our current state.
     
  8. Doctor

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    For our next coach, I hope we take a young guy. Someone who knows a lot about the game, but just hasn't been given an opportunity. I would take a young unknown guy right now over what we currently have. Let him hire some young up and coming assistants, too.

    CPR feels stale to me, already.
     
  9. IcSyU

    IcSyU Well-Known Member

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    I ******* hate when clonedude is right.
     
  10. cycloneinpdx

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    You mean like Chizik? That one really worked well for us. We should do that again. How exactly do you plan to keep the young unproven guy here if he starts to succeed? He'll get snapped up by a 'big' program no time.
     
  11. IcSyU

    IcSyU Well-Known Member

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    I would LOVE to lose a coach because they were too successful here.
     
  12. CycloneErik

    CycloneErik Well-Known Member

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    Me, too. I'm willing to deal with that problem.
     
  13. Doctor

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    This is 100% Pollard's fault and he should be held accountable for it.

    CPR wasn't going anywhere and hadn't done anything to warrant an extension as long and as rich as he received. He should've learned something from the college S and E of here.

    We're paying $2 million per win, so far this year.
     
  14. IcSyU

    IcSyU Well-Known Member

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    "I see it looks like you have ridiculous offensive stats on NCAA Football 2003. Congratulations CycloneErik, we'd love to trot you out on Saturdays to represent Iowa State University as the Head Football Coach."
     
  15. Aclone

    Aclone Well-Known Member

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    Dear heavens. I should have known better than to log in on a Meltdown Saturday...
     
  16. LindenCy

    LindenCy Keep and Pride - It works
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    For the record, I think Rhoads should stay (and he will), but after this year, his overall record will most likely be in the DanMcCarney, Donnie Duncan, Criner, etc. region.
     
  17. cycloneinpdx

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    That might not be a 9 win season. That might be turning around a bad program and getting competitive/showing promise, and then they get picked up before they become too big of a commodity. In the short term, you totally want that... I agree.

    But by the time that you have to replace that young coach with another young/inexperienced coach, do you honestly think the second one will just pick up where the first left off? That they could continue to build, despite their inexperience? Sure, we might have a good year, or two, but it doesn't change the long term outlook--and honestly could hurt the program over time, if you make one wrong hire. I still trust Rhoads to build this team and program up, more than I would trust some young, unproven guy.
     
  18. CycloneErik

    CycloneErik Well-Known Member

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    Everyone can watch as I pull a receiver aside screaming "FOUR VERTICALS!!! THAT'S ALL 4 OF YOU? FOUR VERTICALS!"
     
  19. Doctor

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    Thank god we don't have to worry about anyone stealing CPR away from us. Our current situation is much better than having a guy succeed and leave.

    Our large portion of our fanbase is far too comfortable with being a doormat which makes Pollard's job the easiest in the country.

    10 years $20 million is what we're paying CPR.

    Yeah, there's no way we could get a decent coach for that type of $$.

    Speech! Speech!!!
     
  20. michaelrr1

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    I don't think CPR should be fired at this point. But that decision shouldn't be decided by his contract. Pollard is responsible for handcuffing the athletic department in that fashion. He continues to make the same mistake over and over. Chizik had an extension on the table before he bolted. GMac was given an extension, and Creighton bailed us out of that.
     

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