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Discussion in 'Pro Sports' started by kcclones, May 13, 2010.
Just announced on 610 after game. Ed yost hired
I meant Ned yost
Should've kept Hillman.
If the Royals are ever going to win, they need new ownership that wants to keep the talented players, not a new manager.
Unfortunately, this is true.
Actually the Royals have not lost a good free agent in several years. They signed both Greinke and Soria to long term contracts before they reached free agency. Ownership, while still not great, has improved.
I agree that the Royals would still be a losing team with any other manager. However, Hillman did not improve their chances of winning, and if anything, made it worse. The Royals were one of (if not the) the worst fundamental team in the history of baseball last season, and that is supposed to be Hillman's forte.
Plus, he says ridiculous things like this:
"Soria was available for a 4 out save, but not a 5-out save."
"We couldn't pitch Soria today because he had too much rest."
He took a bad team and at best didn't improve the team, and probably made it worse.
Much of the teams issues have been caused by Dayton Moore and his terrible acquisitions at the major league level. Someday he will learn that it is better to spend 12M on one good free agent than 4 M on 3 free agents who are no better than replacement level players.
You don't watch many Royals games, do you? It's not Hillman's fault that the Royals haven't had a winning season in countless years, but the guy was one of the worst in-game managers I have ever seen. The dude gives away outs with the sacrifice bunt every opportunity he gets and the way he utilizes what talent he does have on the 25-man roster is absurd. He had to go.
So Brewers fans, what's the scoop on Yost? Does he like to play small ball or does he let his guys hit away? Can he handle a bullpen? And what is the story behind him getting the boot in Milwaukee during a playoff run?
Yeah, I'm sure it was the manager's fault...
Assuming that free agent isn't Jose Guillen.
The timing of this is silly and shows the "genius" in KC's front office. Why in the world did they not make this move Sunday after they had lost 5 in a row and had an off day the next day?! Instead, they do it after a win.
Like letting both Buck and Olivo go and do well in other cities so they can have Kendall as their catcher this just goes to show how terribly that team is run.
Thank you for your expert opinion on a move made by an organization that you pay no attention to.
First of all, the Royals have dumped more money into the minor leagues and the big leagues than any other team in the AL central the past three years.
Second they signed Greinke and Soria long term and are working on a deal with Butler. They are keeping there players, whoever said they aren't is just an idiot
Buck and Olivio led the league in passed balls and were HORRIBLE at throwing runners out. At least kendell won't lose games like those two did.
Your dumb and have no idea what your talking about. Yes the manager was very bad, but they have signed the two best players long term, are working with Bulter and have dumped a ton of money into the minor leagues leading to the Royals having a top 10 rated minor league system.
The timing may be off, but it still needed to be done. The word in KC was that David Glass was getting royally pi$$ed with the way the team was playing so it wouldn't surprise me if this move was mandated by the owner. If it was up to Dayton Moore, I'm sure Hillman would have been around all season & then let go in the offseason. The timing seems weird because I don't think Moore was planning to do this, it looks like he had his hand forced by ownership.
Agreed, thats why I said one good free agent.
I would assume anyone who would comment in this thread as if they had some knowledge of Hillman's job performance would. Of course I was wrong.
FYI - HIllman was told before the game that he was gone.
Buck, Olivo, Kendall. I agree that they should have kept Buck for one more year rather than signing Kendall, but the truth is there is not much difference between the 3. Buck and Olivo have more pop in their bat but Olivo has a terrible OBP every year and neither of the two are as good defensively as Kendall.
If you want to look at some real bad moves, look at how Dayton absolutely destroyed the bullpen last year to acquire crappy, overpaid guys when he has cheap players who were as good as better in the minors. Thats what really destroyed this team.
I never said they aren't keeping their players. I said they are a terribly run team and the timing of this decision is a case in point of that. Dumping money into the minors doesn't mean anything until that talent comes up and starts helping the big league club. Most likely they are just dumping more money onto the poor scouting that has had them finish last in their division 5 out of the last 6 years. And have fun with Jason Kendall who is only 37 and I'm sure will be winning all those games that Olivo and Buck lost, HA!!!
Keep calling people idiots and morons for disagreeing with you about the fact that the Royals are just terrible! It's hilarious.