Hate to beat a dead horse but...

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  1. mkadl

    mkadl Well-Known Member

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    #1 mkadl, Mar 4, 2007
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    If MT looses his starting job next year how good will we be? (because a better performer has come in.) I believe if he does start next year,not at point, the pressure will be off him, and the results of his play will be much better.
     
  2. mike4cy

    mike4cy Well-Known Member

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    He won't lose it, he can score like crazy. But he will be a better player when he doesn't need to handle the ball a lot, when he can be part of the offense and not trying to start it.
     
  3. brianhos

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    we just need him to not be the point guard, he is playing out of position.
     
  4. dinger

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    he will be fine as a 2 guard. corey mac or diante should be able to handle the 1 next yr.
     
  5. CYdTracked

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    Who is going to beat him out of a starting spot? If Diante starts it's going to be McIntosh going to the bench.
     
  6. ajk4st8

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    I doubt our best player loses his job
     
  7. PolkCityClone

    PolkCityClone Well-Known Member

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    You are correct - our best player will not lose his job. Wesley will start next year.
     
  8. dinger

    dinger Well-Known Member

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    you beat me too it polk city. i was really hoping he wasnt referring to taylor as our best player.

    that said, taylor probably will lose his starting PG spot, to corey m or diante g or a combo fo both. mike will probably be our starting SG.
     
  9. candg4ever

    candg4ever Well-Known Member

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    I agree. MT might be our 3rd best player. Hubalek improved at his position continuously after he decided to play within the system. In games he didn't score, he at least rebounded and didn't turn the ball over a ridiculous number of times. Subtract the points MT's errors cost us and gave our oppenents every game, and I question how valuable he really is. I think he might be better suited as a come-off-the-bench/instant-offense type of player. Cory McIntosh has also improved steadily, both in running what little offense we have and defensively. Against the Huskers on Wed. he shut down a very good point guard for much of the game.
     
  10. mj4cy

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    Who knows, Dodie could really step his game up over the summer.
     
  11. darts180

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    I really think that it is unfair, all of the shots being taken at Mike Taylor on here.

    He has played out of position all year, he has had to handle the ball way too much, because we struggled at the point guard position for much of the year. He was the only guy on the team that could create for himself and his teammates. Hell he was the only guy on the team that could penetrate.

    He suffered from having very little talent around him, yet it has been all his fault that we are 15-15. I feel bad for the guy, because he will not ever get the credit from the Iowa State fans for being as good a player as he was here.
     
  12. cstrunk

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    He will start next year at the 2 position, and results will be better. I think he had a terrific year but suffered because of the turnovers as a result of playing out of position. That should get fixed next year and we'll see better results out of Mike Taylor. I already wish next season was here... last night's game left me wanting so much more...
     
  13. tec71

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    I understand that MT has been asked to handle the ball more this year than might be ideal but what I don't understand is how making him the 2 guard will fix, what is in my opinion his greatest issue, that being his poor decision making, particularly in shot selection. That has nothing to do with handling the ball come up the court or in starting the offense. Perhaps there's some relief becase all the times he was supposed to start the offense and didn't to take an ill advised shot will go away with a better decision maker at the point. Still shouldn't he improve his decision making in the off season. In fact for all the kudos that GMac and Jiri have gotten for their "heart to heart" I'd think that one of the same sort should occur with GMac and MT with the same explicit consequences threatened as were with Jiri. Play within the system or don't play. Maybe MT gets in the flow then more often. THe guy has crazy ability if he'd slow down and be a part of the flow. Of course most will write me off as a hater becuase for some reason MT has taken on the untouchable nature. It just doesn't seem to be opinion for a debate or honest difference of opinion with some.
     
  14. isucyfan

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    Remember Mike Nurse? He was maddening as a point guard, but electric as a shooting guard. I think there's something to be said for compartmentalizing. When everyone's role on a team is well-defined, everyone knows what they're supposed to do. If Taylor is able to focus on what he does best (shoot the rock) then he can be very successful. If he has to do this and handle the ball, distribute the ball, set the offense, manage the clock in late shotclock situations, etc. he struggles.
     
  15. ISUFan22

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    isucyfan Speechless

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    ISUfan22, you know in some cultures people eat horses, in which case you just posted a picture of a gentleman beating his meat. I, sir, am offended.
     
  17. ISUFan22

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    Nice....:laugh8kb:
     
  18. cmoore_23

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    i think we will have the same starting line up next year as we have all year, i dont see clark, westley or jiri not starting, and with that said, i also believe CM and MT will improve alot, along with all the other players
     
  19. iccyfan

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    Are you suggesting that the citizens of CF arrange for MT to get hit by a pickup? :baffled5wh:
     
  20. Oldgeezer

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    Mike Taylor's problems stem more from playing out of control than playing out of position. I think that's the only way he CAN play. He is a minature Stinson with less strength. He is fearless and does a great job of rebounding for a guy who is 6' and weighs 165#. If he gets beat out next year, it will be by a player who averages 15+ points a game and turns the ball over less than 5 times a game. If that happens, that's a GOOD thing. It's all up to Taylor.
     

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