Hard Flooring

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by jeff0514, Mar 26, 2011.

  1. jeff0514

    jeff0514 Member

    Apr 12, 2006
    We are looking at replacing our cheap carpet and linoleum on our main floor with hard wood or bamboo flooring. I've read consumer reports reviews and ratings. Anyone have advice on this? I'd have to pay someone to install but could try ripping out the old carpet and vinyl myself. Moving furniture and appliances will be a pain. I've looked at Nebraska Furniture Mart and Lumber Liquidators. We have two little boys so I need something fairly durable. I realize wood will dent and scratch.
  2. zeke

    zeke New Member

    Apr 11, 2006
    Go with Pergo -- a laminate
  3. CYclist

    CYclist Member

    Mar 17, 2006
    Laminate is an easy to maintain option. Scraped hardwoods are also a great option as they have more character and you don't have to worry about the dents and dings as much.
  4. MNCyGuy

    MNCyGuy Well-Known Member

    Jan 14, 2009
    Des Moines
    My father-in-law installed laminate in his house a couple years back and absolutely hates it now. He's pretty handy, so I doubt it was an installation issue, but he doesn't think it's held up real well.
  5. CycloneYoda

    CycloneYoda Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2009
    I love my wooden floor/rug combo. Easier to clean and looks sweet.
  6. Three4Cy

    Three4Cy Well-Known Member

    Jan 19, 2010
    West Des Moines
    With any type of laminate flooring, you get what you pay for - if you buy cheap it will not last. Spend the money and put quality in, you will be thankful in the long run.
  7. jeff0514

    jeff0514 Member

    Apr 12, 2006
    How do you know what's quality? Is it higher quality just because it costs more? Anyone know anything about bamboo?
  8. JY07

    JY07 Well-Known Member

    Aug 20, 2009
  9. CycloneYoda

    CycloneYoda Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2009
    If you choose bamboo, do not invite any panda bears to your house. Recipe for disaster.
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  10. Cyclonepride

    Cyclonepride Thought Police
    Staff Member

    Depends on what you are looking at.

    For laminate floors, quality is in the structure and wear layer. Cheap laminates will be thinner and less resistant to scratching.

    For wood floors, quality is in the milling, and also the way that it is constructed. For a solid wood floor, larger bevels usually equal poorer milling. Some of the cheap manufacturers have latched on to this impression, and put a smaller bevel on crap material, but your height differences board to board will result in a crappy looking installation.

    For engineered (multi-layer plywood, solid top layer), it's in the construction. Cheaper materials will be rotary peeled, which makes it look like plywood (repetitive grain pattern), and will also check (splits in the grain) due to the way it is made. A sawn wear layer is best there.

    Bamboo is very hard, but seems to move a lot with humidity changes. You will want humidity control if you go that route.

    Throw finish warranties out the window. In 17 years in flooring, I have never seen a successful claim regarding finish. They're simply there for show.

    If you want to know more, send me a PM. I work for a flooring company with a showroom in Ankeny.

    CYEATHAWK Well-Known Member

    Aug 26, 2007

    Just installed a bamboo floor. Purchased it at Lumber Liquidators. It is 5/8 inch instead of the typical 3/4 thick. Looks great. Will it hold up as good as an Oak or Maple floor.........only time will tell. But my advice would be to go this route instead of laminate. You cannot beat the real thing.
  12. majorcyfan

    majorcyfan Well-Known Member

    Feb 18, 2007
    Retired Sales Mgr
    It doesn't hold up well as a non hardwood alternative. Don't ever have dogs on laminate as scratches are major fault of laminate
  13. Clonefan94

    Clonefan94 Well-Known Member

    Oct 18, 2006
    Graphic Designer
    Schaumburg, IL
    I've installed both hardwood and laminate. Maybe my friends just wear really hard, don't know, but I would never put laminate in my own house. It doesn't stay together all that well and instead of gaining character as it ages, it just looks worse. Hardwood on the other hand wasn't much tougher, imo to install. Get or rent a decent nailer and a miter saw and you should be good to go. My father and I did about 400 sq. ft. in two days. If you get a good system going, there's nothing to it. We've had our floors in for 4 years now and they still look as good, if not better than any of my friends who have a laminate in their house.

    If you have dogs though, neither holds up that well to them. Their claw demolish foors.
  14. CycloneDaddy

    CycloneDaddy Well-Known Member

    Sep 24, 2006
    I have had no issues with my dog and our laminate flooring. Of course he is kind of lazy and doesn't run in the house very often.
  15. CyBears

    CyBears Member

    Sep 27, 2009
    Any bozo who lets dogs in on their wood floors should be shot. And I'll do the shooting. But seriously, be very careful who/what you let on your floor. Our daughter in Chicago bought a 6 month old house that the wood floors had to be refinished because of the big dogs toe nails and sloppy water bowl habits.
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  16. CYclist

    CYclist Member

    Mar 17, 2006
    Dogs nails do nothing to the surface of any decent laminate floor. While laminate might be a temporary floor, they hold up just fine to dogs running around.
  17. Cyclonepride

    Cyclonepride Thought Police
    Staff Member

    True. You get the cheap, crappy stuff at the big boxes, and yes, they will wear out. Get a good one, they're usually fine. You get what you pay for.
  18. ruxCYtable

    ruxCYtable Well-Known Member

    Aug 29, 2007
    I know someone who installed bamboo. It looks awesome where it's held up, but...

    Last time I was there his floor was covered with spots of blue tape where he was having to have someone come out and replace/repair it. Lots of visual blemishes and lots of gaps, apparently from expansion/contraction.

    I've installed two rooms worth of Pergo and I'm about to do a third. What I've done so far looks great and I'm far from a handyman.
  19. intrepid27

    intrepid27 Well-Known Member

    Oct 9, 2006
    Executive Recruiter - Ag
    Marion, IA
    We had Alloc laminat flooring for 10 years in a house we just sold. 2 kids (+friends), 2 dogs, and it still looks great. It was under our kitchen table and you have to look hard to find a scratch. Also more quiet and "softer" to stand on then wood. Unless you really want the charachter look that wood developes over time i'd recommend taking a look.

    On the other hand, we just bought a house that has a cheaper laminate floor. I think it is 7-10 years old. Has some gaps between pieces, and a few of the pieces have the finish peeling off on the corners and some cracks in high traffic areas. You have to look to see defects but they are there.
  20. ISU_phoria

    ISU_phoria Well-Known Member

    Apr 10, 2006
    Construction Project Mana
    Andover, MN
    #20 ISU_phoria, Mar 27, 2011
    Last edited: Apr 12, 2011
    I installed bamboo from lumber liquidators about 4 years ago in my entry, kitchen, & dining room. We absolutely love it & it has held up well. Generally, laminates ( good quality) will wear better, but won't be as desirable from a resale value if that is something you need to consider.

    I haven't regretted the bamboo decision at all, just make sure you have the proper sub floor & tar paper beneath. And, make sure you let the wood acclimate to the environment before installing.

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