Danny Mac's 1998 team finished 3-8, 1-7 in the Big 12. Two years later, we won the Insight Bowl and finished 9-3. 14 players who have made at least one start this year will still be here two years from now. Here's some of the players we'll have in 2015: QB--take your pick: SBR, Rohach, Lanning, Hodge RB--Nealy, Mister WR--Bundrage, Lazard, Daley, Ecby, Montgomery OL--Four of the five starters we had against TCU today, plus Campos and Curtis Defense--Kron, Tribune, Charlie Rogers, Sam Richardson, Luke Knott, Lemke, Mitch Meyers This year sucks, but just be patient. CPR will make a two year turnaround just like McCarney did. Mark it down!

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Please...no more "wait 'til next year" or "wait 'til 2015" threads. I beg of you....all of you....no more.

I ran out of fingers doing the math, but by my reckoning, we're 13 years removed from that 9 win season.

Now we're waiting for 2015? Should we start the "2016 will be the breakout season" threads? This is really out there.

this team has 6 win talent and -3 win coaching. until the coaching is fixed, dream on about 9 win seasons.

Glad to see so much optimism on this board. Outside of cygrads, no one has listed a reason why we CAN'T make that kind of turnaround.

1. Coaching 2. Coaching 3. No more North Division 4. Coaching 5. Talent Does that answer your question?

We can do it, in theory, but we've seen the program in action. As of now, we know that we can't put together a competent offensive unit, so we won't have the offense to make that improvement. The more confident posters have indicated that they think the defense may take a step or two back (somehow) next year. That points to a season just as lovely as this one. For your idea to work, both sides have to magically and suddenly improve to the point that they can more than double the number of wins from this season and next combined. It could happen, but we don't have any evidence with the current staff and roster to say that it's likely at all. And you posted it while we're 1-8.

Agreed on the -3 win coaching. 9 wins is assuming CPR makes the necessary changes. Not sure if this team has 6 win talent though...

So let me get this straight. You started a thread saying we can win 9 games in a year or 2 and you are now backtracking 18 posts in?

No. Replying to poster that said he thinks the CURRENT team has 6 win talent this year. I think this year's talent will be 9 wins good 2 years from now.