Forde Article: The Bowl System Joke

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  1. NATEizKING

    NATEizKING Well-Known Member

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    That was a great read. As an ISU fan though, hard to agree with him on the 6-6.
     
  2. ISUChippewa

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    Forde is one of the best sportswriters out there. Good article.
     
  3. Wesley

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    La Tech, 9-3, not going to a bowl game - Yahoo! Sports
    So, VandyV looks like he was trying to get the Clones snubbed into Shreveport by shutting us out in Music City and/or HOD. The HOD should never have been a choice. What a guy. He deserves some butthurt.
     
  4. longtimeclone

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    He is one of my favorites and I enjoy most of the yahoo sport writers also.
     
  5. erikbj

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    The student athletes are raising millions and millions of dollars to represent their school, with supposedly no pay (e.g. Scam Newton), i have no problem with too many teams going to bowl games. The kids should get the opportunity to get something out of the "system" that has been created.

    The NCAA and the Universities use these kids to make millions, why not throw a free trip in for their efforts.
     
  6. Clonefan94

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    It was a good read, although I'm tired of the 6-6 argument being brought out again. There is a reason that they have 6-6 teams bowl eligible. It's so they can pick a team who has a fanbase with a pulse. And having teams from a major conference might drum up a little more interest on TV than watching Bowling Green play Arkansas State in a bowl game.

    Maybe there are too many bowls, that argument could be made, but you have to be realistic, most 6-6 BCS teams are better than a 2 or 3 loss team from the MAC or Con. USA.
     
  7. CTTB78

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    Agree. There is at least one 6-6 team out there that played nine bowl teams this year.
     
  8. mac4cy

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    Great article. It shows how upset everybody is about the bowl selection this year. It just makes a playoff that much better, not by a lot. There is just too much money to be had.
     
  9. JD720

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    How would that even be possible? Even if the Big12 had two in the BCS, ISU would still be available for the HOD. Does the HOD bowl have some clause in their contact that allows them to pass on an eligible Big12 team? I doubt it, but how else could they pass on ISU?
     
  10. Knownothing

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    I don't mimd all of the bowls. Its amazing to me the way thry set them up. The conferance tie ins drive me nuts.
     
  11. Wesley

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    So basically all MAC coaches voted NIU higher than they deserved while B12 voted them lower than they deserve because $2M per team was at stake. Yep, great system.
     
  12. Cycsk

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    It is the BCS system that creates the problems. In their efforts to determine a national champion they keep making adjustments that seem to make sense based on previous years, but don't quite make sense when it comes time to implement them.

    I don't think the bowl system is the problem. I consider it the best post-season in all sports. It is so good for college football, the teams, the players, the fans, etc.

    The problem is the never-ending push by ESPN and perennial powerhouses to be the clear-cut national champion. If we move to a format that is more conclusive regarding the national champion, I'm afraid that the rest of the bowl system will fall apart. All but one of the teams in the playoffs will finish with a loss. Traditional bowl settings will fade in significance to the playoff locations which will probably be rotated. My only hope right now is that they keep some form of bowl system in place for non-BCS teams.

    Frankly, I don't care who wins the national championship. I care about Iowa State and college football in general. Perhaps this fiasco will help us see that the BCS system is the problem, particularly in its narrow focus on determining a national champion. The bowl games, without the BCS system, are the best post-season in all sports.
     
  13. Cycsk

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    Are there any others? From outside the Big 12?
     
  14. LutherBlue

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    I appreciate what you're saying, but aren't we basically already at this point? The Rose Bowl, etc, are still a big deal and fun to watch, but I don't see them falling off the radar much further than they already have. There is currently one game that matters and the rest are exhibitions. In the new system there will be 3 games that matter, not much different in my opinion.
     
  15. Cydkar

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    This is a VERY good point. I used to be totally opposed to 6-6 teams in bowls but nobody is forcing anybody to watch so no big deal. The money is there.
     
  16. Cycsk

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    The big difference is seen in forcing the Orange Bowl to take NIU. This is a great bowl tradition that is likely to be tarnished because of the expansive influence of the BCS system.
     
  17. Cydkar

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    HOD had to take a B12 team if there was a B12 team available and eligible.
     
  18. HandSanitizer

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    This is just stupid.
    You have to account for strength of schedule
    You also can't compare the PAC12 and Big12 with the SEC, ACC and Big Tens schedules.

    We are a 7 win team if we have the same number of conference games.

    Take 8-4 Miss State for instance.
    4 non conference games
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    I like our chances of getting to 7 wins with that schedule.
     
  19. JD720

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    That's what I thought, but I'm trying to figure out BVDV's strategy here. There was no way that HOD was going to have room for an at large team. How could both he and C-USA commissioner miss that (I know he is not respected here, but I can't see him being that dumb)?
     

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