Did I see a McD endorsement by JP on TV?

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  1. swiacy

    swiacy Active Member

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    During the latter stages of the game a segment was shown and discussed by the broadcasters comparing McD's first 3 years to Johnny Orr's first 3 and the point was emphasized with statistics to clearly show that McD actually has a better winning percentage after 3 years. They went on to say do not forget that Johnny is the winningest coach at ISU. I fo not doubt that this info was given to them by the Ath. Dept. in such a way as to suggest in case of a losing situation at the end of regulation that this info would make a "warm/fuzzy" for McD. I do not think that prior to the broadcast that they would have looked for info to go that route on their own. Why should they care what the Cyclone fan base cares about his career or the direction of the program? That is how I reacted to that segment immediately, anybody else feel that way? What's your take on that Chris Williams' you have done enough broadcasting to know how Ath Dept's and SID's disseminate info prior to the game. And I am 50/50 on McD, I am not sure if coaching is the issue or if the players are the issue.
     
  2. brianhos

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    Good... JP is gone too then. This is just a joke, the guy cannot coach his way out of a wet paper bag. He is horrible.
     
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  3. Final42b

    Final42b Well-Known Member

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    I would be interested to see it. Would it be online somewhere?
     
  4. Bubbahotep

    Bubbahotep Well-Known Member

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    It's both, the guys are making the same stupid mistakes game in and game out, and the coaching staff isn't addressing those mistakes, or if they are, they are not getting through to them.
     
  5. BCPanther

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    Mac had hit his ceiling in his last two years in Cedar Falls. Guy went control freak in the last eight minutes against Wisconsin and Georgetown and UNI didn't get it done.

    The guy would be a phenomenal coach for a building mid-major that is just happy to get to the tournament every once in a while. He doesn't know how to teach or recruit guards, and he is never going to get great talent to come play his system, it is what it is.

    We are glad you took him off our hands. We feel pretty good about where Jake is taking the program.
     
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  6. CyBobby

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    I agree that mac is not coaching very well right now but, I think bigger problems are Recruiting and Retention of said recruits.

    Until McDermott fixes those problems the chances of escaping 10th place are good.
     
  7. alarson

    alarson Well-Known Member

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    I laughed when they made this comparison. Orr walked into a much lower program, while McDermott walked into a program that was one year separated from an NCAA tournament.
     
  8. tim_redd

    tim_redd Well-Known Member

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    If it weren't for Rhoads, JP's seat would be getting awfully warm...
     
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  9. RossHallHero

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    Talent is not the problem with this team. Not at all.

    Ejim is a talent (incoming). Colvin is a talent. Gilstrap is a talent. Brackins is a talent.

    The fact that he has talented players and two probably NBA players on his team is actually an indictment of his coaching ability when you consider that we are just a horrible, awful basketball team.
     
  10. RossHallHero

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    That shouldn't keep his *** from being on fire right now.

    His coaching selections have all been a gigantic FAIL to this point, with the exception of one and that one remains to be seen.
     
  11. Go2Guy

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    How many AD's get to hire 2 coaches from the three legend sports at a Div 1 University?

    JP may just get the chance to hire two coaches each for FB, MBB and wrestling........and I can't say I can trust him after the deal he settled for GMc's contract.

    I personally feel he pulled the trigger way too early on Morgan, and somewhat on McCarney.
     
  12. RossHallHero

    RossHallHero Active Member

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    BTW, Iowa still has more conference wins than us and if not for a meltdown against Michigan, they would've doubled us up.

    One of the teams they beat in NW, we lost to.

    Iowa is quite possibly the least talented team in the history of any type of sport at any level, yet they grind and grind and grind. It ain't pretty, but no one said it had to be. I've actually been watching them play quite a bit and although their best player is average, they are actually fun to watch because they try so damn hard.

    It's like rooting for US vs the Russians in hockey.
     
  13. RossHallHero

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    In the same time frame that JP has...I'd say only the horrible AD's?
     
  14. Bubbahotep

    Bubbahotep Well-Known Member

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    Hindsight is a great thing. Name one coaching move he's made that when it was announced, you were disappointed with. Chizik, Sanderson, and McD didn't pan out, but they were considered good moves at the time. You can't fault him hiring Jackson or Rhoads, but if he keeps McDermott on too long, basketball will be his downfall.
     
  15. cyatheart

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    Doesn't matter how far removed a team is from the NCAA tournament. It was a mess when he came here, and it is still a mess, just like it was still a mess in Orr's fourth year. The big problem is we don't have a 2 guard. We need a guy that can come off a screen hard, hit a shot and is deadly from 3 point range, then he needs to be able to go down and defend the other teams guard. We don't have that and it isn't coming next year.

    Until we get that really good off guard combined with a really good point guard it is going to be more of the same.
     
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  16. Go2Guy

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    They'll still be mediocre next year,,,,,and will beat us.
     
  17. cyclonenum1

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    Too bad using the comparisons of the first three years are a year late at this point...we are just about done with year four.

    I remember plenty of those last year...comparisons to JO and comparisons to Coach K. They were ridiculous a year ago and are borderline insane this year.
     
  18. CloneAbuse

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    I'm not sold on either being NBA talent. Gilstrap is terrible at dribbling into trouble with his head down, out of control, turning it over and Brackinsis soft and can't play with his back to the basket, he forces shots and his best attack is a fade away jumper....for a 6'9" PF. I don't call that talent. Overhyped, maybe.

    When the commentator said we needed to go through our horse, Brackins, under a minute, he got the ball and threw up a 19' jumper that barely grazed the front of the rim....NBA baby!!!
     
  19. RossHallHero

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    This is the worst argument in the history of arguments.

    It's Jamie's job to hire coaches that WANT to be here. He didn't do that in 2 out of the 3 you mentioned. Whether I liked the hire or not is not relevant. How it worked out is relevant.

    Getting the hot hire is exactly what got him into trouble with Chizik. He was so intent on pumping his own ego to Cyclone fans, that he made a hire that you knew wouldn't last. For cripes sake, you could tell from the initial pep rally that his heart wasn't here. It's Jamie's job to figure that out before hand during the interview process.

    With Mac, I think he wanted to hire him before Iowa had the chance because again, that's who the fans wanted. Guess what Jamie, we fans are idiots and just because we applaud a move, doesn't mean it's the right one. It's your job to make the right one. Now, we've got Mac and he sucks. Good thing you kept Iowa from getting him.

    He acted with his ego and we're paying for it.
     
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  20. Al_4_State

    Al_4_State Well-Known Member

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    If you think Jake is going to be there after another tourney appearance, you're on crack.
     

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