I have noticed this board bounces back and forth from dismay towards the current season to blind optimism in upcoming seasons. For example, as it became clear that our football team was terrible alot of people began looking to basketball, and many of those people were very optimistic. Now as our basketball team has struggled with some inferior teams, I have noticed alot of people looking to next August with optimism. With this being said, I was wondering what everyone's idea of success is in both football and basketball. What will it take for us to start talking more about the in-season teams, and not looking towards possibly future success. Basketball and football: What would you consider successful seasons this year? 5 years? 10 years?