Cyclones 1-point underdogs at Kansas State

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  1. ChrisMWilliams

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  2. bosco

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    I would be very leery if ISU was favored in this game.
     
  3. CycloneErik

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    That's fair. I don't have a feel for this game at all.
    I don't expect more than a 3 point game either way.
     
  4. ChrisMWilliams

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    I'm surprised it is only a point. I figured KSU would be at the very least a 3-point favorite.
     
  5. VeloClone

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    Me too. Afterall they are 7-0 at home in conference play including wins over KU, UT, OU and OSU.
     
  6. bawbie

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    kenpom as KSU by 2.
    sagarin actually has ISU by 0.5
     
  7. Rhoadhoused

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    I know teamrankings gives us 56% odds to win. I thought it was a pickem or maybe even us favored by 1.

    Vegas seems to have been big fans of ISU all year long with some favorable lines.
     
  8. Cyclonestate78

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    Personally I think the tight spread is simply a factor of how good ISU matches up with K-State. K-State isn't very big in the post... neither is ISU. K-State isn't explosive on offense as they average 69 points per game... ISU is explosive on offense and have scored at least 70 points in every game this season leading to an average of 83.6 points per game.

    I think there are a lot of areas where ISU has a significant advantage on K-State. If ISU can dictate the tempo and they play their game I don't think K-State can beat them tomorrow.
     
  9. Rhoadhoused

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    FH has won 5/6 vs KSU as well I believe.
     
  10. VeloClone

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    #10 VeloClone, Feb 28, 2014
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    Let's not ignore that ISU is giving up an average of 80.5 points per game (in regulation) on the road in conference play while KSU only gives up 61.4 (in regulation) at home in conference play.

    This should be a dogfight.


    Where is Mike Nurse when you need him.
     
  11. Wesley

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    The CF bus for the win....good luck charm....
     
  12. Cyclonestate78

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    ISU has a style of play that K-State simply can't match offensively. If ISU can play solid on D K-State simply doesn't have the offensive firepower to stay with them. Have Monte shadowing Spradling on the perimeter and do a decent job defending Foster and who on K-State's roster is going to beat you? Nobody.
     
  13. Rhoadhoused

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    Obviously ISU plays at a much faster pace so both stats are not that important. I would guess ISU is scoring more PPP and playing better defense PPP wise though as ISU is ranked pretty highly in both.
     
  14. Cyclonestate78

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    Those are great defensive stats for K-State at home. The only problem is that K-State hasn't faced the Cyclones in the Octagon of Dumb yet.
     
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    Dam. Wish I was in Vegas. I would put 10k down on KSU -1. This team couldnt win at Texas or OU. No way in heck are they winning at KSU.
     
  16. VeloClone

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    The same could be said about ISU's scoring average and having not played at K State yet.

    Look, I'm not trying to be a pessimist, but if ISU is able to pull this one out it will be a major accomplishment. They even were able to beat KU there which they have only done - what, twice? - in that building.

    By the way, I prefer to call it the Octagon of Mild Discomfort.
     
  17. cstrunk

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    I'd take KSU. ISU on the road = sketchy, and KSU at home (minus the very beginning of the year) = money.
     
  18. Cyclonestate78

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    I'm not trying to be a sunshine pumper but I just really like how ISU matches up with K-State. Outside of TCU I don't think there is another Big XII team that ISU matches up with better then K-State.

    Also keep in mind that since their big win against KU the Wildcats got spanked by Baylor, struggled at home against TCU before pulling away late, got spanked at OU, and struggled badly at Tech. Right now... K-State has to be a bit concerned with how poorly they have been playing coming into this game going 5-5 in their last 10 games while ISU has won 8 of their last 10 games.
     
  19. aeroclone

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    We really haven't beat a B12 team with a pulse on the road yet this year. We played Tech before they got their crap together, and TCU is just terrible. We did manage to pull off OSU, but that was in the middle of their 7 game losing streak, and it took us 3 OTs to do it. I'd bet the farm on KSU and I'm a little shocked they are only favored by 1.
     
  20. pourcyne

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    Vegas doesn't always get it right. They had Iowa over Indiana last night, didn't they?

    GO CLONES!!!
     

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