Blow To Our Progam or Blow To Our Ego

Discussion in 'Wrestling' started by Clonefan32, Apr 20, 2009.

  1. Clonefan32

    Clonefan32 Well-Known Member

    Nov 19, 2008
    Iowa State has obviously had one of the top 5 wrestling programs in the nation throughout the history of collegiate wrestling. It is my opinion, that the popularity of wrestling in the state of Iowa, as well as the talent pool located in the high school ranks, Iowa State's wrestling program will sell itself. Will loosing Cael serve as a huge detriment to the growth of our program? I highly doubt it. I think we will continue to be a force on the national scene, and will be in the conversation for many years to come.

    The reason this situation has so many up in arms is it is a huge blow to what ego we Iowa State fans have left. Our wrestling program is the one aspect of our athletic department we can count on seeing continued sucess in, and losing Cael seems to make us feel inferior in the one sport we have seen a winning tradition in. This being said, this program has been built by much more than Cael Sanderson. While his college career was undoubtedly the highlight of wrestling at Iowa State, his success does not define Iowa State wrestling. Losing Cael as a monumental figure of Iowa State hurts, but does losing him as a coach hurt at all? After all, he has only been coaching since is not like we are losing a legend in the coaching ranks. It is understandable for everyone to be upset towards Cael and expect more from an Iowa State legend, but in no way should his departure leave you discontented about the wrestling program or the athletic departments committment to Iowa State wrestling. This turn of events certainly hurts the egos of all Iowa State fans, but lets not forget that our wrestling program will go forth and, in my opinion, see continued success far into the future without Cael Sanderson.
  2. CyPlainsDrifter

    CyPlainsDrifter Well-Known Member

    Jun 19, 2006
    Both, but the worse one is the blow to the program. We were poised to be a favorite for NC next year and right there for years to come. This, without a doubt, is going to tear the program apart for a significant amount of time. Talk on the street is that Varner wants to follow and that he will be able to as a grad student. If so, that right there wipes out any chance of getting the NC next year. Further, we will lose Cyler and possibly other starters and we will almost 100% lose Taylor and Weatherman. We are screwed if we don't find someone who can keep this team together.

    Cael let us down by leaving, but the real damage he will do is yet to come, when the program is torn apart by defections.... some likely at Cael's doing.
  3. CTTB78

    CTTB78 Well-Known Member

    Apr 7, 2006
    I think the issue for me is that we would like to think that someone who was the best at what he did, who did it at Iowa State, one of our own who would never leave for the money.
    But in the end, money won again.
  4. isunorth

    isunorth Well-Known Member

    Mar 3, 2009
    Real Estate Consultant
    Money always wins. I'm unhappy about Cael leaving, but I don't understand why people see so surprised?
  5. JJ4ISU

    JJ4ISU Well-Known Member

    Apr 11, 2006
    WDM Side of Waukee
    If it's so much easier to build a program at Penn State, why doesn't Cael recruit his own guys there, instead of ones who are currently enrolled or signed with Iowa State? No matter what anyone says it's Busch League to take athletes from your current school, particularly your alma mater, to your new school. McDermott could have done it with a few guys, but was classy enough not to do it.
  6. everyyard

    everyyard Well-Known Member

    Nov 24, 2006
    $anderson isn't done damaging our program yet. When Bale $anderson gets done torpedoing us on his way out, good luck being in the top 5 next year, when we should of had a REALLY good shot at a national title. Not to mention how many of the great recruits will go to P$U or O$U. If he could just leave and never look back and that was it I would get over it, but if he leaves and takes our program back a decade I am going to hate him for the rest of my life.
  7. LukePlansky

    LukePlansky Member

    Nov 29, 2007
    Sanderson at his press conference today:
    “I can’t really say what’s going to happen with those wrestlers. We’ve spent a lot of time talking with the individuals, and they’re gonna, they’re gonna try and stay. I think it’s important that they stick together, especially – we have a great junior class at Iowa State. And I think it’s important that they stick together and finish what they started.”
    It didn't seem like he was posturing. But I doubt he'd strongly resist if some of those upperweights follow him over.
    (Ward, Varner, Thompson -- Zabriskie said he's staying)
    Penn State didn't qualify the 184-, 197-pound or heavweight class for the NCAA Tournament.
  8. MaxPower57

    MaxPower57 Active Member

    Mar 30, 2006
    Along with Z, I've heard that Mueller, Burk, Ward, Jensen, and Sorenson are staying from various guys I talk to on campus. Hopefully many more make the same decision.
  9. Balls

    Balls Well-Known Member

    Mar 23, 2006
    DeNver, IA
    "they stick together and finish what they started"... so it appears Cael had nothing to do with it...
  10. isunorth

    isunorth Well-Known Member

    Mar 3, 2009
    Real Estate Consultant
    The irony of that statement is too much for me to handle. What a puke. I've lost a lot of respect for Cael.
  11. CyCy

    CyCy Well-Known Member

    Nov 7, 2006
    I would label it as a huge blow to the program.

    With Cael, I think we had a good chance of winning national championships in the near future. No matter who we hire to replace him, I think the potential for national championships has been severely reduced.

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