big huge elephant

Discussion in 'Football' started by Knownothing, Nov 23, 2012.

  1. Knownothing

    Knownothing Well-Known Member

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    Burhams defenses has been horrible. Everyone is talking messingham. Hell his offense did enough to get 31 poimts if it were not for woodys fumble. Burgams defenses have been giving up huge yards and huge points. I like wally but quit blaming messingham. He uas got better as the years uas gone on.
     
  2. simply1

    simply1 Well-Known Member

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    did you type that on a 10 year old dumb phone?

    Anyways, I think we have been giving up yardage all year, but they didn't get a lot of help from the offense for most of the year. They've had chances to help the offense given our punter pinning people, and haven't been able to get 3 and outs in most cases as well.
     
  3. xboxfever

    xboxfever Well-Known Member

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    Wally does a great job with limited talent on defense. Shut the hell up.
     
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  4. jdoggivjc

    jdoggivjc Well-Known Member

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    The only elephant in the room is Knownothing.

    You know why our defense has been horrible lately? Because 1/3 or so of the defense that was actually good from earlier in the year is now out with injury.

    You, like Hugs, can also STFU.
     
  5. bos

    bos Legend
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    This.
     
  6. MNclone

    MNclone Well-Known Member

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    You are right, i cant believe we gave up 31 to this no talent WV offense.
     
  7. CyAndrew23

    CyAndrew23 Member

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    So holding teams to score significantly less than their season averages is horrible...ok
     
  8. FDWxMan

    FDWxMan Well-Known Member

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    ???????

    ISU held all Big XII opponents below their scoring average for conference games, except Kansas. Don't know how that is a negative at all.
     
  9. simply1

    simply1 Well-Known Member

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    We win by blowout if they hadn't discovered tavon.
     
  10. Gorm

    Gorm Well-Known Member

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    GO AWAY
     
  11. Knownothing

    Knownothing Well-Known Member

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    Alright name one offense we have shut down that we should not have. Any team with any talent scored over 30 points against us. Every team. Yet all everyone wants to do is blame messingham who has called two good games in a row and is getting better.
     
  12. sfcyclonefan

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    Pretty sure if you hold WVU to 31 you had a good game. ESP with a back up CB and a walk on safety.
     
  13. Gorm

    Gorm Well-Known Member

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    Can we get a list of team averages per game and what they scored against us? That outta be a good does of STFU.
     
  14. Rick

    Rick Well-Known Member

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    AND MISSING AN ALL CONFERENCE 1ST TEAM LINEBACKER!
     
  15. klamath632

    klamath632 Well-Known Member

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    We played fine, Knownothing. Lenz dropped the tying touchdown throw, Woody fumbled afterwards when we still had a chance to tie it. We played fine.
     
  16. Knownothing

    Knownothing Well-Known Member

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    Yeah we actually gave up more points per game than teams have minus iowa, west virginia and kansas I believe
     
  17. Cyclonepride

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    that is outstanding, and is why we are bowling.
     
  18. FDWxMan

    FDWxMan Well-Known Member

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    And in most cases it was better than a TD lower than the opponents Avg.

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    [TD]Texas Tech[/TD]
    [TD]32.1[/TD]
    [TD]24[/TD]
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    [TD]TCU[/TD]
    [TD]29.7[/TD]
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    [TD]Kansas State[/TD]
    [TD]38.5[/TD]
    [TD]27[/TD]
    [TD]-9[/TD]
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    [TD]38.1[/TD]
    [TD]31[/TD]
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    [TD]40.3[/TD]
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    [TD]43.1[/TD]
    [TD]35[/TD]
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    [TD]35.4[/TD]
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    [TD]16.4[/TD]
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  19. swarthmoreCY

    swarthmoreCY Well-Known Member

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    WTF man, get a hold of yourself.
    ISU did better against WVU than all but 3 teams- without 3 key starters. I am assuming you are under the influence of some sorts to count a TD that did not happen as points for Mess. Wally would be a GD wizard if he was allowed to not count TDs that we gave up. Not to get personal, but I am not sure you can ever be taken seriously again with that logic. Anyone that is this hung-up on yards does not have the basic understanding of risk-reward that is requisite to function in society.
     
  20. Al_4_State

    Al_4_State Well-Known Member

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    Were a little anti clutch all across the board. Woody failed when he is usually rock solid. Passing game needlessly ****ed ktself, and our defense refuses to help itself. Team loss.
     

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