Attention Coaches and Armchair quarterbacks....Question:

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  1. 4Cyclones

    4Cyclones Member

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    I posted this in another thread, but thought it deserved its own thread.

    I was always taught that your fingers should be on the laces of the football when throwing a pass. It appears, from different pictures in the photo album, that maybe SJ uses both methods.

    Any thoughts?
     
  2. tim_redd

    tim_redd Well-Known Member

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    Sometimes on those quick throws you might not have time to find the laces.
     
  3. RustShack

    RustShack Well-Known Member

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    Big time NFL QB's don't always use the laces either.
     
  4. Rhoadhoused

    Rhoadhoused Well-Known Member

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    Like I said in the other thread. Probably a bubble screen or really quick throw where there is no time to readjust the laces. Remember it is from shotgun and not under center where the laces go right to the correct spot every time.

    In fact, it seems like if you look at it Jantz is looking directly at the sideline with the crowd behind him.
     
  5. stevefrench

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    on those quick screens it's catch the ball and immediately turn and throw. no time for finding the laces. it's a short enough pass that it really doesn't matter how tight the spiral is.

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  6. AllBig12Drinker

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    Yeah, it's not necessary to have your fingers on the laces (although it helps). Throwing a tight spiral has a lot to do with your grip. It's important to have strong fingers and a thumb and leave a little space between the ball and your palm. At least that's the way I was taught.
     
  7. SCarolinaCy

    SCarolinaCy Active Member

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    suspect your coaches saw small hands and helped ya the best they knew how............
     
  8. besserheimerphat

    besserheimerphat Well-Known Member

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  9. AllBig12Drinker

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    Knew it was gonna sound like that when I typed but figured I'd leave it on a tee for someone.
     
  10. AllBig12Drinker

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    Not really but it helps your velocity and spiral a ton. Actually picked it up at quarterback camp where they instructed everyone this way.
     
  11. 00clone

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    Watch the NFL. You will see every quarterback violating some sort of 'golden rule' of being a QB. Throwing motion, foot location, etc. At some point, it's what you can get to work for you.
     
  12. cydline2cydline

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    The bottom picture appears to be as advertised. Most qbs sneak there pointer finger almost yo the tip of the ball...aids in a tighter spiral
     
  13. 4Cyclones

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    I see the responses, and get the quick hitter notion, but if this is really the case, then I would tend to think that this may play a small part in accuracy. I am not buying the small hands posts. Quick hitter or shotgun, we always found laces. Where's FBnTx at? I love to hear his pov.
     
  14. FootballinTexas

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    #14 FootballinTexas, Sep 4, 2012
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    Picture #1: He's obviously throwing a quick screen pass. I teach my QB's to catch and throw on those plays. If he tries to find the laces on those that half second gives a DB plenty of time to react. But, you are correct that it affects accuracy. That's why I have my guys throw about 50 per day to both sides of the field. If this was a tunnel screen, he would have time to find the laces because there is a play-action fake with the RB.

    Picture #2: This is the one that brings concern. As you can see, he has already started his stride and weight transfer but the his elbow is not cocked. This is why he throws off the back foot (all arm) so much. What I mean is, think of a pitcher going to his windup. When his knee falls into the leg kick through to the stride, the the elbow cocks back (loads) for the the drive and hip turn. Proper mechanics leads to balance on the front foot. The same applies for a QB. This helps with velocity, accuracy, and ball placement. CPR has said he has aspiration of playing at the next level. He needs to get that corrected. Other than that, everything looks good.
     
  15. driegner

    driegner Well-Known Member

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    Awesome thread. Thanks guys! I love learning this kind of stuff.
     
  16. BuffettClone

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    This is all very interesting and informative...being a scrub lineman in hs I never had to learn "proper mechanics" for throwing the ball. I do agree that he is probably throwing a quick pass and didn't have time to find the laces. He seemed pretty accurate against Tulsa so if he keeps that up I don't care where the laces are.
     

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