A question about attendance/capacity

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  1. Al_4_State

    Al_4_State Well-Known Member

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    Since we have somewhere around 46,000 actual seats, is that the # required for a "sellout"? I mean, we get over capacity crowds on a regular basis, and most of our games anymore have butts in all the seats, but yet Hawk fans like to say that if we're under 55,000 (a # only reached in recent years) it isn't a real sellout. It seems to me that filling up all the seats is a logical sellout, because, we could hypothetically keep allowing bodies into the gates and have an unlimited capacity. I know this is kind of pointless, but I'm just curious. In my opinion, Jack was sold out last Thursday.
     
  2. isuno1fan

    isuno1fan Well-Known Member

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    It's a gray area. The AD massages it as they see fit.
     
  3. Cyclone62

    Cyclone62 Well-Known Member

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    Up until 2 years ago I think we listed 46K as a sell out. Since then it's been the 55K mark.
     
  4. CycloneWanderer

    CycloneWanderer Well-Known Member

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    I say we keep saying we are not sold out so we do not discourage people from seeking tickets.
     
  5. CyFan987

    CyFan987 Well-Known Member

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    Good question. Never really thought about it. But I agree that a sell out now a days is probably 55,000 or more.
     
  6. superdorf

    superdorf Well-Known Member

    This is actually a good idea.
     
  7. jumbopackage

    jumbopackage Well-Known Member

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    I think the previous 46k number was a bit misleading, since that didn't count the hillsides, which we do count in the attendance numbers.

    even with 47k+ that we had last week, we still had plenty of empty seats (though they may have been sold).

    I don't have a problem with 55k being a sell-out. That's about as much as JTS can fit, and so, to me, that's a sell-out.

    I don't like playing the hawkeye game with our sellout numbers. It's a pretty meaningless statistic, I think, since teams do all sorts of crazy things to sell out (i.e. Nebraska essentially giving away tickets).

    The bottom line is revenue for the program. Whatever generates the most of that is what really matters.
     
  8. 83Clone

    83Clone Well-Known Member

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    To me it's a non-issue. We have 10K +/- in standing room only "seats" which aren't really "seats" but are available for sale. So the antagonist will say we have never really sold out a game, even though we averaged more fans than we have seats last year.

    So you can make it whatever you want. The key is just be there
     
  9. CyFan987

    CyFan987 Well-Known Member

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    Agreed and I will be there every game!
     
  10. CycloneErik

    CycloneErik Well-Known Member

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    I'll be there, too, unless I'm in Jamaica!

    My tickets are accounted for by people that will be atttending, though.
     
  11. CyFan987

    CyFan987 Well-Known Member

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    Good to hear!
     
  12. Al_4_State

    Al_4_State Well-Known Member

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    I can handle that...
     
  13. HandSanitizer

    HandSanitizer Well-Known Member

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    I think if the sell out all the physical seats then its a true sell out. We get an additional 10,000 seats with the Hills so that number helps recruiting and selling the stadium etc.. Its easy to sell expanding the stadium when you have people sitting on hills though. Your not asking for more people to come to the game really. Your just making them sit in a physical seat and possibly not allowing the north hills.
     
  14. CyFan987

    CyFan987 Well-Known Member

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    Does anyone know approximately how many people the stadium will hold after phase II?
     
  15. CyForPresident

    CyForPresident Well-Known Member

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    JTS had 46,500 permanent seats before the west side expansion. JP said tonight that 2,000 seats were lost from the construction, I've heard 2,200 specifically. That would put permanent seating around 44,000. JP said that we can top out at 53,000, but 54,000 seems possible.

    JP also said that there would be around 55,000 permanent seats when the south endzone is done which would put around 60,000 total. This is if we do the full double deck south endzone.
     
  16. CyFan987

    CyFan987 Well-Known Member

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    The south endzone will only hold 5,000 even with two levels?
     
  17. CyForPresident

    CyForPresident Well-Known Member

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    No, it will hold 10,000-12,000.

    44,000 pre-existing permanent seats+ 11,000 new south endzone permanent seats=55,000 permanent seats

    55,000+5,000 north hillside=60,000
     
  18. IcSyU

    IcSyU Well-Known Member

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    You're replacing seating that's there already with permanent seating and just covering the hills...second deck is extra seating...
     
  19. CyFan987

    CyFan987 Well-Known Member

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    Woops forgot for a moment that 55,000 is including hill seats
     

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