A crack at Big 12 final standings and tournament seeding

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  1. CysRage

    CysRage Well-Known Member

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    #1 CysRage, Feb 22, 2014
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    Here is my attempt at predicting the rest of the Big 12 games and seeding for the Big 12 tournament. This is assuming KU beats Texas tonight which it looks like that will easily happen. Here are the standings I predict.

    1) Kansas 16-2
    2) Oklahoma 12-6 Wins tiebreaker over ISU and OU due to record between OU&ISU
    3) ISU 12-6 Wins tiebreaker over Texas due to record between OU&UT
    4) Texas 12-6
    5) K-State 11-7
    6) WVU 8-10
    7) Baylor 7-11 Wins tiebreaker over OSU due to head to head vs OSU
    8) OSU 7-11
    9) Tech 5-13
    10) TCU 0-18

    To explain why the win over Tech is what gave us the edge over OU. We split our series with OU and tied our record with each team going from top to bottom until Tech where we swept them and OU split. (wow, I know!)

    In this scenario the Big 12 tournament bracket is as followed

    1) KU vs winner of 8) OSU / 9) Tech

    4) Texas vs 5) K-State


    2) Oklahoma vs winner of 7) Baylor / 10) TCU

    3) Iowa State vs 6) West Virginia

    I just did this for fun so don't rag on me if you don't agree! Hope you all enjoy! Go Cyclones! :cool:
     
  2. CysRage

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    My picks:
    OSU over TCU, KU over OU, KSU over Tech, ISU over WVU, UT over BU, WVU over TCU, BU over Tech, OU over UT, KSU over ISU, KU over OSU, OSU over KSU, ISU over BU, UT over TCU, KU over Tech, OU over WVU, KU over WVU, KSU over BU, ISU over OSU, UT over Tech, OU over TCU.
     
  3. KCMOCy

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    Actually I think it would be 2. ISU 3. OU and 4. Texas in that case. In three way ties it first goes to records against each other. Since that would make Texas 0-2 against OU, that drops them to 4th. Then ISU wins the tie breaker over OU because of their record against Tech.
     
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    Nevermind, it would be 2. OU 3. ISU and 4. Texas due to OU going 2-0 against Texas.
     
  5. CysRage

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    #5 CysRage, Feb 22, 2014
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    Hmm.. you may be right! Here is the tiebreaker procedure if you want to check it out. Phillips 66 Big 12 Championship Seeding and Tiebreaker Procedures - Big 12 Conference - Official Athletic Site Let's figure this out! I did my picks based on who SHOULD win and gave the benefit of the doubt to the teams that would hurt ISU's seeding yet ISU still fares pretty well.

    Edit: here's how it reads for ties between more than 2 teams.

    1. Results of collective head-to-head competition during the regular season among the tied teams (mini round-robin).

    So yes you are right. It would be OU, ISU, then UT. I'll get that updated!
     
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    Also switch Baylor and OSU in the standings. Baylor wins the head-to-head against them.
     
  8. CysRage

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    Got it! Yeah the bracket generator is much easier haha

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  9. Rick

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    Can't imagine OSU V KU in the first round game. Somebody could have made huge money putting that out there as a bet.
     
  10. CysRage

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    I don't think anybody who was sane would have but there is an excellent chance of that happening. With how close OSU played KU in Lawrence, I wouldn't be surprised to see OSU make it a game.
     
  11. gocubs2118

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    If we just split the two road games, we are pretty much guaranteed at least the 3 seed.
     
  12. swarthmoreCY

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    3-1 will be very tough, even these home games are close to toss-ups.
     
  13. gocubs2118

    gocubs2118 Well-Known Member

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    Until someone not named Kansas beats us at home, I'm not expecting a home loss.
     
  14. Wesley

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    Looks like we need to win the next four.:cool::cool::cool::cool:
     
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    #15 swarthmoreCY, Feb 22, 2014
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    It would not shock me if we lost one at home. Ok St and WVU can really match-up with us. 11-7 looks likely, and I could see it coming from picking up a surprise road win.
     
  16. alarson

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    This. Its been what, since hoiberg's first year that a current big 12 team not named kansas has won here? I will never 'expect' a loss at home.
     
  17. WIB

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    We have lost 4 home games since Royce's year. 1 UNI 1 Missouri 2 Kansas.
     
  18. gocubs2118

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    Mizzou beat us two years ago but none since then.
     
  19. CyFan61

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    #19 CyFan61, Feb 22, 2014
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    That's what I was working through as well. If ISU goes 12-6 (which is 3-1 down the stretch) I don't see a realistic way that we would end up with worse than a 3 seed.

    I think a 2 is quite a bit better than a 3, because 2's get to play a team that had to play the day before (the 7/10 winner), but at the same time a 3 is much, much better than a 4.

    Get a 3 and be decent favorites over the 6 on Thursday... play essentially a toss-up game against a team that we have beaten this year on Friday... and if all goes well, take national center stage on Saturday night against Kansas for the chance at a tournament title and potential #2 seed in the NCAA's.
     
  20. alarson

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    Hence 'current big 12 member'
     

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