Discussion in 'Football' started by AIBClone, Jan 13, 2011.

  1. AIBClone

    AIBClone Member

    Jan 13, 2011
    Do you guys think CPR next big win can come next year vs. Iowa? I guess my thoughts are it will be our best chance in awhile and for a couple years to come. They lose Sash, Greenwood, and their 3 best DLs. Sash going to the NFL could be the best news with him taking over the game the last couple of years. I also believe all around we will be a better team in 2011.
  2. ISUFan22

    ISUFan22 Well-Known Member

    Apr 11, 2006
    Healthcare IT Project Manager
    Denver, CO
    Their running back is gonna give us all we can handle. The kid was a beast in the bowl game.
  3. AIBClone

    AIBClone Member

    Jan 13, 2011
    Very true and they have another on the way. I dont blame them for getting rid of Robinson and company. If we cant win, maybe we can put up some points against the starting D and not the Iowa City High D. But based off of prior history, CPR is going to give us one shocking win this year and a win vs. Iowa would stop the bashing for one year.
  4. CloneFan4

    CloneFan4 Well-Known Member

    Aug 5, 2010
    Pants Party
    I've been saying it all along ISU WILL win vs Iowa. In my mind there's no excuse to losing. We have our best shot coming up in recent years and I'll be very disappointed if we can't pull it off.
  5. mred

    mred Well-Known Member

    Oct 19, 2006
    SE WI

    You're welcome.
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  6. Yes13

    Yes13 Well-Known Member

    Oct 9, 2009
    I'm not expecting a win, but it will tell us a lot about our new QB(whoever it might be). I'm sure the QB will probably look pretty good against UNI, and I bet our fans will be pretty pumped going into the Iowa game. If we win the QB will be considered very good/better than AA.
  7. CloneFan4

    CloneFan4 Well-Known Member

    Aug 5, 2010
    Pants Party
    I really hope a W against Iowa wouldn't make everyone think that the QB would be way better than AA. AA was always a conference play QB anyway. The fan in him was what got him in the Cy-Hawk series.
  8. bostrem00

    bostrem00 Well-Known Member

    Feb 23, 2009
    ISU Post-grad Warrior
    I hope so, yet i don't see it happening....CPR doesnt seem to care about this game...as much as conference games...
  9. CloneFan4

    CloneFan4 Well-Known Member

    Aug 5, 2010
    Pants Party
    That is what I hate about CPR IF this is true. I LOVE the game against Iowa and if you can't get up for this one then which one can you get up for. I would really love to see the kind of emphasis Mac put on this game from CPR.
  10. cyclonedave25

    cyclonedave25 Well-Known Member

    Jul 10, 2007
    Sports Performance Coach
    Chicago, IL
    So, kind of like Kirk Ferentz when Dan was our coach?
  11. CyFan61

    CyFan61 Well-Known Member

    Oct 25, 2010
    I don't buy this. CPR has only had two showings so far. I am willing to give him one more year at the least to show his enthusiasm for this game. In the big picture, conference play is more important, but many ISU fans will have this game marked down as #1 atop the wishlist for 2011 wins. I think CPR will have the time fired up and ready to go, and give 100% effort a la the Nebraska/Texas games earlier this year. We will have a chance.
  12. Sloup

    Sloup Well-Known Member

    Nov 14, 2009
    Ames, IA
    Given the choice, I would rather Paul Rhoads gear up for conference play instead of stressing out over beating Iowa. Ideally we can win in both settings, but conference wins have WAY more to offer in benefits. Especially since there's this prevalent idea that rivalry games are always a toss-up, regardless of talent levels on either side.

    That said, there's two more Iowa games in my time at Iowa State, and I'd like to see us win at least one of them.
  13. erikbj

    erikbj Well-Known Member

    Aug 31, 2006
    compliance officer
    hiawatha, ia
    I bet he cares about winning every game equally, conference wins only matter when you are competing for the conference title......in ISU's case they are trying to get to 6 wins and qualify for bowl games.
  14. Clonedep156

    Clonedep156 Member

    Dec 2, 2010
    Police Officer
    Des Moines
    I love our chances this year for a big W over the KF Cartel. Sash leaving was a good thing but I do agree that we gotta stop their RB. Also, I think their backup QB was better than Stanzi but the Ohio State game might have been a fluke. But, in the end, we need to man up and put a beat down on the Hawks.

    Also, until he says he doesn't, I think Rhoads gets going for the game just as much if not more than others. I wish I could be there but I'm sure he motivates the hell out of the team in practice and in the locker room before the game.
  15. cytheguy

    cytheguy Well-Known Member

    May 23, 2006
    I don't think we have the talent coming back that Iowa does, but in this series anything is possible.
  16. CykoAGR

    CykoAGR Well-Known Member

    Dec 16, 2008
    Waukee, IA
    In this game anything is possible. I know Iowa loses some starters but they tend to be able to reload to a certian degree.

    Like it or not I think Vandenberg has the ability to be just as good or better than Stanzi. Coker showed a glimmer of hope with a big game in the bowl, it is only one game and depth seems to be a problem for them at RB.

    This game will be won or lost in the trenches and until we prove otherwise Iowa has DOMINATED us in the trenches in the CPR era. If their OL and RB have a game like they did in the bowl we are screwed. If we can make their WR and QB try to beat us we have a better chance.
  17. Istate

    Istate Active Member

    Jul 15, 2008
    I think this game is really intriguing. I think that we will demolish UNI. UNI is on a slide, and we've been playing well the first game the last couple of years. The question is what will it tell us?

    I look at Iowa and see dramatic losses for them, especially on defense. Could you imagine ISU trying to replace three starters on the DL heading into next year? What bothers me about their DL losses is that their DL wasn't that good last year. The difference between watching Iowa play and watching OSU and Auburn play was amazing because all I heard all last year was how good Iowa's DL was suppose to be. Our matchup with their DL isn't necessarily a huge ISU advantage either. We lose our best lineman in Lamaak, but the rest of the guys are pretty experienced. I think ISU should look better than we have in recent years up front this fall.

    Next, Iowa's LB's. Horrible this year. Yes, they had injuries forcing a true freshman to start at mlb for 1/2 the season. He'll be better. The kid from Humboldt should be healthy, but I have no idea what 3# lb looks like for them. What I see is a bunch of guys at Iowa playing LB that are slow. That's great for us. We're going to put quicker more elusive guys at RB at next fall. Plus, our passing attack will target the sidelines to draw their OLB's to get out there and with them being a step slow, maybe we'll finally break a couple of long plays next fall.

    Their back four will actually be pretty good. Iowa tends to make a living with safeties that aren't the most athletically gifted kids (like Greenwood) who are smart players that thrive off of the opposition's qb being pressured into bad throws (Ames in '09). Sash is a solid but not explosive player. His reputation was largely built off of one game (Ames '09). Thus, I think you'll see better athletes playing safety for Iowa this year, and their two cb's are solid and back for another go round. I think they have a decided advantage here as their cb's are good in run support and better athletes than our wr's. Plus, their new safeties will be better in run support (especially over greenwood).

    Offensively, Iowa kind of scares me a little bit. I know everyone expected them to have a great offense this year that never came to fruition, but they should be pretty damn tough offensively next year. They bring back 5 OL that either started or played significant minutes. That's not good for our dline that will still be making adjustments to Nelson and hopefully a new DT that will be playing. They pass block very well, and I hate to say it we haven't exactly pushed them with the DL lately.

    I think the kid from Keokuk? at qb is a more explosive player than what Stanzi was. I think he has a bigger arm and throws a better ball than what Stanzi did. However, Stanzi was a winner for the most part. This will be the new qb's first rivalry game, and I think we can force him into mistakes. I would Iowa's inexperience here gives us the best chance to win, followed closely by their lack of lb's. Luckily for their new qb, it appears they have a rb that is a beats. ISU struggles against big backs. Coker coupled with an experienced OL against our DL might alleviate the worries Iowa fans should have about their qb against us. On top of Coker, they are bringing in two heralded RB recruits both similar to Coker/Shonn Green. They aren't gamebreakers like SJ is, but I imagine they'll be pretty damn good at getting 4-5 yards which is enough if Iowa plays mistake free football.

    They do lose their stud TE that hurt us last year. I really don't have any idea if they have anyone coming up behind him. So that's good news because our LB's are much better in run support than they are in the pass game. As far as WR's go, they do lose #15. That's going to hurt, but McNutt is a good player. Not explosive but a matchup problem for our smaller cb's. The kid from CR will be asked to play alot, but I think we have a decided advantage in the passing game against Iowa this fall.

    It will be a hard game to pick. We haven't scored a TD in a long time. They have some pretty significant losses. Right now I'd say we force the new qb to make a few mistakes and beat Iowa, but it will fun to here news out of both spring camps to maybe make some more knowledgeable predictions.
  18. Capello

    Capello Active Member

    Sep 21, 2010

    I'm pretty confident James will throw for two touchdowns and run for one as we beat Iowa 21-14,you heard it here first

  19. sunnysideup

    sunnysideup Well-Known Member

    Aug 6, 2009
    The Metro
  20. eddiepishammerd

    Jan 14, 2009
    I don't think there is anything about the game of football CPR doesn't value at the highest level. He has no margin for error with this team. He knows it.

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