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    Duke settles with ex-lacrosse players

    Duke settles with three ex-lacrosse players - Other Sports - MSNBC.com

    Financial terms undisclosed. Most likely the families will go after the prosecutor next (good)

    But I have to wonder if this doesn't set a dangerous precedent for colleges. I realize that 99.9% of instances where athletes get into trouble, don't have the same impact or scope of what happened here. But imagine in Jason Berryman's case, he is accused, gets suspended and is cleared of charges at a later point - what recourse does he have against ISU now?

    Again, I realize this isn't an apples to apples comparison.



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    Re: Duke settles with ex-lacrosse players

    In this type of case it is ok to suspend them from the team pending the legal process, but you can't kick them out of school before a conviction or due process. Playing in a sport is a priviledge and can be revoked at anytime without cause.



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    Re: Duke settles with ex-lacrosse players

    I think the first monies from the settlement should come from the 88+ people that signed that stupid petition against these students.


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    Re: Duke settles with ex-lacrosse players

    Were they kicked out?

    The article says they were suspended and the season cancelled (so all the players were defacto suspended).

    But I agree with you. They can't be dismissed on accusation alone.



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    Re: Duke settles with ex-lacrosse players

    Quote Originally Posted by DaddyMac View Post
    Duke settles with three ex-lacrosse players - Other Sports - MSNBC.com

    Financial terms undisclosed. Most likely the families will go after the prosecutor next (good)

    But I have to wonder if this doesn't set a dangerous precedent for colleges. I realize that 99.9% of instances where athletes get into trouble, don't have the same impact or scope of what happened here. But imagine in Jason Berryman's case, he is accused, gets suspended and is cleared of charges at a later point - what recourse does he have against ISU now?

    Again, I realize this isn't an apples to apples comparison.
    It's happened at ISU...

    Royce Hooks was found innocent of sexual assault and was not allowed back onto the ISU football team. I can't remember exactly what happened with Nash, but I believe charges were dropped before trial due to the outcome of the previous case.

    Hooks found not guilty in sexual assault trial - News


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    Re: Duke settles with ex-lacrosse players

    I remember that one. I think Royce was on his 2nd or 3rd strike. And as I remember, although he was found not-guilty of rape, he wasn't exactly "innocent" of bad behavior.



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    Re: Duke settles with ex-lacrosse players

    I'd have to say that in a case where the guys were kicked out were being grossly persecuted, as in the Duke case, they should be allowed to burn the place down.

    And I think the "professors" who signed the petition should have serious and immediate consequences. But they won't. After all, as academics, they can be as narrow-minded and bigoted as they want and face no consequences.



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    Re: Duke settles with ex-lacrosse players

    I read HERE that Nifong is keeping his pension and health benefits after the ordeal. That's nice. So basically the prosecutor's just headed for an "early retirement." And you know it's not Nifong that's gonna get the civil suit - it's going to be the state of North Carolina because Nifong was representing them. Yep, that's American justice for you...


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    Re: Duke settles with ex-lacrosse players

    Nifong will get the civil suit. The State will as well. Typically the State's insurance would cover Nifong too. In this case though the insurance may actually deny him coverage, as the disciplinary verdict was that the things he'll get sued for were "intentional acts," which the insurance I'm sure won't cover. Worst case, they'll defend him and reserve the right to reject the coverage after the fact (the more likely outcome, because of the big trouble the insurance company gets in if they deny coverage to someone who deserves it). They will then chase him to recover the money spent defending him and paying any settlement on his behalf. Then if he has Personal Umbrella liability they'll have to decide whether to defend him and reserve rights etc. It'll be a mess. In the end he'll be in bankruptcy.


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