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    The Oakmont Debate

    I'm curious to hear how people feel about the U.S. Open's difficulty. After Day 2, Phil's missed the cut (by one shot), Tiger's struggling mightly, no one left below par and only Cabrera sitting at even. I got a chuckle out of Tiger's interview here...

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    Does the average weekend-er find amusement or displeasure out of such an ugly contest? I've got some friends who have no sympathy and find enjoyment out of seeing the greats struggle, but I tend to enjoy a little more attacking/a few more birdies and less damage control. Not much, just a little. Oh, and a winner with a score of (+4) or something like that just sounds terrible....



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    Re: The Oakmont Debate

    I like it... makes me feel better, like they are actually human.


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    Re: The Oakmont Debate

    I like to watch them struggle, too. With such a tough course, no player is safe and will most likely not pull away from the field.



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    Re: The Oakmont Debate

    The US Open has always tried to be the tournament that par should be the goal of the course. Fast greens, long rough and target golf.

    I don't mind the difference between the majors.

    The British Open is on a links course which tests the ability to play an uneven course with the ball taking odd bounces and the deep sand traps.

    The Masters is the most beautiful course and the only major that plays on the same course every year. The course has lengthend during the years but for the most part the players have alot of history with this one.

    The last is the PGA Championship, top field of players different courses and a more normal type of challenge.


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    Re: The Oakmont Debate

    Yes all good points, but I've also heard the likelyhood of a great Sunday finish is dramatically lessened because players are backpeddling and losing ground rather than scoring low and going and passing someone. The finish becomes whoever can screw up the least......Does this fact change anything?



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    Re: The Oakmont Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by chadm View Post
    The last is the Players Tournemant, top field of players and one they can call there own.
    I hate when people (myslef included) are anal and correct people about meaningless stuff, but I thought I'd throw in that the PGA Championship is the final major. "The Player's" is big but not considered one of the 4.



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    Re: The Oakmont Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by thakeepa14 View Post
    Yes all good points, but I've also heard the likelyhood of a great Sunday finish is dramatically lessened because players are backpeddling and losing ground rather than scoring low and going and passing someone. The finish becomes whoever can screw up the least......Does this fact change anything?
    Golf is always who screws up the least. You are playing the course with the final score compared against the rest of the field.
    It isn't like other "sports" (not to start if golf is a sport debate). Another player can't effect another players shots or the course. Yes a player will look at the leader board and may need to try to take chances at the end to try and catch up. This will only work if they don't screw up.


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    Re: The Oakmont Debate

    Quote Originally Posted by thakeepa14 View Post
    I hate when people (myslef included) are anal and correct people about meaningless stuff, but I thought I'd throw in that the PGA Championship is the final major. "The Player's" is big but not considered one of the 4.
    Thanks for correcting me. The point about every major being a little different stays the same.


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    Re: The Oakmont Debate

    Zach made the cut by just one stroke. Hopefully he can make a nice run this weekend.



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    Re: The Oakmont Debate

    Agreed. But in competitive golf, if you're paired with a guy that's one shot ahead of you going into the last hole, aren't you going to play as aggresive as humanly possible to make up that one shot (i.e. birdie)? Some would argue this back and forth effecting how each other plays the shot is exactly like a guy putting a hand in your face in the gym, because he changed the way you played the hole.


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    Re: The Oakmont Debate

    Can you just quit at 54 holes and tell them you are happy to compare scores after they play 72?


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    Re: The Oakmont Debate

    I really like the US Open. I have played one championship type course (Kiawah Island) and that thing ate me alive. I was happy just to get the heck off the course. These guys have amazing skill, and it is nice to see it really tested.



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    Re: The Oakmont Debate

    Just looking at the leaderboard. Adam Scott missed the cut, which was surprise the way he has been playing. ZERO birdies, 11 bogies, 2 doubles and one "other". Sounds like a good couple rounds for me!



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    Re: The Oakmont Debate

    I love it tiger and the long hitter just cant slam away and hope for the best. They have to play golf. Technology has made the game to easy for the pros this brings them down a noch.



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    Re: The Oakmont Debate

    "Professional" golf is becoming like most other sports where whining becomes the norm when the professional environment is not to the easy, fun likeings of the players. Look at the money they make for cripes sake. They should be challenged, that is what is suppose to set them apart from us putz's in golf. Not just the specialized clubs etc..

    To see someone shoot 28 under is a boring game. I would take a challenged tournament with a winner near par anytime .... if the reason is because the course is challenging, not because the best are not there.



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