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    Wayne Bolt is the rainmaker for ISU Football

    Not too tough to tell who is leading the charge on recruiting for ISU. Not sure how Chizik knew Wayne Bolt would be so well received by potential recruits, but that is happening. Every review I've read from players mentions how much they like Bolt and are interested in playing for him and Chizik. He's the set up man and Chizik is the closer. This is gonna be fun....Anyone talked to him?



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    Re: Wayne Bolt is the rainmaker for ISU Football

    Good find Ketelmeister. I'm yet to see any recruits verbally commit but it's a good start that they are saying good things.


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    Re: Wayne Bolt is the rainmaker for ISU Football

    I'd say that would be the #1 in-depth reason why we got Chizik and let him make his own staff: recruiting!


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    Re: Wayne Bolt is the rainmaker for ISU Football

    I agree that DMac was weak at recruiting - and it showed on gameday. However, every Big10 team now has at least one verbal, and every Big12 team now has at least 3 verbals. We've got a lot of good maybes so far, and that's probably still better than middling verbals. IMO the summer camps are a crucial period for verbals.



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    Re: Wayne Bolt is the rainmaker for ISU Football

    You need to remember that verbal commitments mean nothing...they are totally non-binding. The only thing that means anything is a signed LOI.



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    Re: Wayne Bolt is the rainmaker for ISU Football

    Non-binding is correct, but the do mean something. They at minimum show a high level of interest from the recruit, even if he later changes his mind. We have had several verbals that end up going elsewhere, but the vast majority of kids that verbal come if they qualify. It is not surprising we don't have many verbals yet, but it is an indication.



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    Re: Wayne Bolt is the rainmaker for ISU Football

    My thought on this is that if you are going after a lower level of recruit, and recruiting against Ball St, UTEP and North Texas, you are going to have a much easier time getting verbals. If you want to upgrade your talent, you are going to have to go against some more high profile schools, and it's going to take a little more work and time.



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    Re: Wayne Bolt is the rainmaker for ISU Football

    Future recruiting will depend on how our team does this fall season. Right now we are am umlmpwm quamtity since Gene has never beenm a head coach before. It will be a slow grind. Bill Callahan is just now getting into the saddle in recruiting IMO.

    We can always go after more jucos.


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    Re: Wayne Bolt is the rainmaker for ISU Football

    Quote Originally Posted by Wesley View Post
    We can always go after more jucos.
    not many people on this board will be happy with that scenario (including me - it's time we focused more on home-grown talent than the "Hostess Cakes" of the football world. Just like Hostess Cakes, even though Seneca Wallace and J.J. Bass were pretty good pickups and the O and D line show potential, you eat enough Hostess Cakes and it will kill you...)


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    Re: Wayne Bolt is the rainmaker for ISU Football

    I hate to get into this again, but I disagree with those who think McCarney was a weak recruiter. In fact, I think he did a nice job, especially if you compare him to the three Iowa State coaches prior to him. McCarney's problem was his gameday coaching.



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    Re: Wayne Bolt is the rainmaker for ISU Football

    Quote Originally Posted by JJ4ISU View Post
    I hate to get into this again, but I disagree with those who think McCarney was a weak recruiter. In fact, I think he did a nice job, especially if you compare him to the three Iowa State coaches prior to him. McCarney's problem was his gameday coaching.
    I think Mac was a weak recruiter, a good coach of the talent he had, but a bad game day strategist.

    I think Mean Gene is going to make us see how weak Mac was with recruiting, and I'm hoping he shows us how much better game day strategy can be.



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    Re: Wayne Bolt is the rainmaker for ISU Football

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclonepride View Post
    My thought on this is that if you are going after a lower level of recruit, and recruiting against Ball St, UTEP and North Texas, you are going to have a much easier time getting verbals. If you want to upgrade your talent, you are going to have to go against some more high profile schools, and it's going to take a little more work and time.

    See, this is a nice point. Often times in recruiting, we took the path of least resistance, and were beating out the UTEP's of the world for players. Now it's OK to get some kids like that, but when entire classes are that way, and you try to blow smoke, calling the 70th rated recruiting class the best you have had, the experts don't know what they are talking about, the fraud becomes apparent (granted it takes longer for some people to pick up on it).

    But what Mac did, and this goes along the lines of the philosophy of the mediocre, he would recruit these JUCO kids, that had no chance of getting in to school, but they were highly regarded. Good programs find out that they won't pass, and shift to another recruit. Ol' Mac stayed with those kids, and might even get a commitment, again knowing the kid would never see the campus, then when the kid isn't eligible, you have yet another excuse you can throw at people (even though you don't accept losing).


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    Re: Wayne Bolt is the rainmaker for ISU Football

    Quote Originally Posted by jdoggivjc View Post
    not many people on this board will be happy with that scenario (including me - it's time we focused more on home-grown talent than the "Hostess Cakes" of the football world. Just like Hostess Cakes, even though Seneca Wallace and J.J. Bass were pretty good pickups and the O and D line show potential, you eat enough Hostess Cakes and it will kill you...)
    It's always better to get 4 year athletes, but the truth of the matter is being competitive and winning is more important. It may be that we have to accept juco's for several years in order to get a track record that will allow us to attract the kind of 4 year athletes we need to be competitive. As long as Gene is more successful than Mac with the jucos he recruits, I don't have a problem with that.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Wesley View Post
    Future recruiting will depend on how our team does this fall season. Right now we are am umlmpwm quamtity since Gene has never beenm a head coach before. It will be a slow grind. Bill Callahan is just now getting into the saddle in recruiting IMO.
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