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    Players aside, what has to change?

    In my view, Iowa State football needs several things to happen.
    1. Better conditioning. We died in the fouth quarter
    2. More creative offense...need I say more
    3. More aggressive scheme for Defensive Backs..not layoff 10 yds
    4. A team that knows what they are doing. Our guys looked at the sidelines like what are we suppose to do now?
    5. An offense that lets the QB make his own decisons on where to pass.
    Those are some of my thoughts. We don't know what this group of players will do, but there is certainly room for Chizik to improve the system.
    What have I missed here?



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    Re: Players aside, what has to change?

    I think they're on their way to hitting on some of those points you mentioned.

    We know the strength and conditioning program has been amped up. We heard the players commenting on it and we've seen some results on a few of the guys.

    In the spring game, I saw an awful lot of DB's standing less than a foot away from receivers at the line. I couldn't stop yapping about it in the stands. I've been waiting for that kind of defensive play for YEARS.

    I think we're going to see some exciting offense. We know Meyer is capable of being a threat, but he was quite limited last year, reportedly by the coaching staff. As you hinted at, we had heard reports that he was only allowed to throw to one third of the field, and that's just plain unacceptable.

    I think the 2 biggest keys to being successful at all this upcoming season are going to be the running game and the offensive line play. I think our wide receiver corps is still going to be good. Not worried there at all. I think the linebackers will be OK and the D-line won't be great but they won't be a hinderance, either. The DB situation is going to be dicey but I'm not too concerned about it because I know what kind of coaching ability Chizik has and defense is his specialty.

    I just really hope that Bass makes it. Without him, we only have Scales, and I don't think he'll be able to carry the load this year.



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    Re: Players aside, what has to change?

    Favorite quote from the Tailgate Tour articles on Cyclones.com:

    Chizik closed the program with talk of the first weeks of workout with almost all his football squad in Ames.

    “Somebody came up to me and asked ‘what have you done to (ISU quarterback) Bret Meyer?’”

    Chizik said that Meyer had put on an additional 12-14 pounds and that the whole team was buying into what he and strength and conditioning coach Ken Sheppard were trying to accomplish.
    Conditioning is coming. We've heard that they're working on giving Meyer more options, and with the Tampa 2 we should see some press coverage.

    I'm excited for the fall.



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    Re: Players aside, what has to change?

    12-14 pounds on a college senior?!? Holy crap, that's amazing.

    I think the biggest thing I'm hoping for is that these intense practices, workouts, and scheme, give our guys some confidence and just a little little bit of a cocky swagger.



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    Re: Players aside, what has to change?

    Quote Originally Posted by letsgostate View Post
    In my view, Iowa State football needs several things to happen.
    1. Better conditioning. We died in the fouth quarter
    2. More creative offense...need I say more
    3. More aggressive scheme for Defensive Backs..not layoff 10 yds
    4. A team that knows what they are doing. Our guys looked at the sidelines like what are we suppose to do now?
    5. An offense that lets the QB make his own decisons on where to pass.
    Those are some of my thoughts. We don't know what this group of players will do, but there is certainly room for Chizik to improve the system.
    What have I missed here?
    1. already being done, but can always use improvement
    2. I make more creative things before 9AM than our offense last year so this is an automatic assumption of change.
    3. The spring game had a lot more man-to-man, up in the WR's face looks, but I think what is more important than one or the other is switching it up, our DB's and in fact our whole defense needs to have the mindset that the OTHER TEAM should be guessing what defensive set they'll be in, rather than the defense setting up in the same thing and guessing what the offense will come out in.
    4. That is a reflection of the coaches, not just the head coach, but the entire coaching staff. You have to find that happy medium on both sides of the ball between too simplistic of plays/schemes and too complex. You can't feed the players all the knowledge there is on football and crash course them, but you can't do it all for them either.
    5. I definitely don't know about this one, time will tell, but god i hope we go away from the "meyer stares down one WR the entire play until his throw" and towards plays that go all the way to 3rd and 4th options through reads of maybe a couple positions of the D.


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    Re: Players aside, what has to change?

    Quote Originally Posted by letsgostate View Post
    In my view, Iowa State football needs several things to happen.
    1. Better conditioning. We died in the fouth quarter
    2. More creative offense...need I say more
    3. More aggressive scheme for Defensive Backs..not layoff 10 yds
    4. A team that knows what they are doing. Our guys looked at the sidelines like what are we suppose to do now?
    5. An offense that lets the QB make his own decisons on where to pass.
    Those are some of my thoughts. We don't know what this group of players will do, but there is certainly room for Chizik to improve the system.
    What have I missed here?
    Uhh, let me just summarize your 5 points into one simple statement:

    A new head football coach.

    And we did that.



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    Re: Players aside, what has to change?

    Quote Originally Posted by pulse View Post
    Uhh, let me just summarize your 5 points into one simple statement:

    A new head football coach.

    And we did that.

    You cannot argue with this logic. Well said sir.


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    Re: Players aside, what has to change?

    Item 5 is a good goal, but I don't know how much time the QB will have for analysis once the ball is snapped.



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    Re: Players aside, what has to change?

    I want a group of lineman that don't forget the plays. When one of the lineman last year made that comment in the paper that some off the lineman couldn't remember the plays being called made me sick. I also think that an athletic LT will help a great deal Fisher just got killed all the time the DE was two steps in the backfield before he even took a step. People are worried about Dedrick's size but I am sure he will be up to at least 290 by fall and will be able to move.


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    Re: Players aside, what has to change?

    If I may elaborate a little on that point.

    IMO, what needs to change is the game day attitude of the team, and that starts with coaching. I don't hate Mac - far from it. But he was NOT a good game day coach. Poor play calling, poor poor clock management and a general lack of guts in many situations. How many times did we have the ball a the end of the first half with two minutes or so to go and timeouts, just to sit on the ball? How many times did we cross the opposing 40 on our final drive, shut it down and just play for a 35+ FG?

    How many times did that bite us in the arse?

    I can't help but believe that type of malaise doesn't trickle down to the players. By the end of the season, instead of having a "go get it" attitude, many were probably more like "don't screw up, don't screw up, don't screw up".

    So, in the end, I agree with all 5 of those points. And as a result, instead of eeking by and playing not to lose, I'd like to see this team step on some throats.

    #2 would be conditioning and strength - no doubt.


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    Re: Players aside, what has to change?

    Quote Originally Posted by pulse View Post
    Uhh, let me just summarize your 5 points into one simple statement:

    A new head football coach.

    And we did that.
    You took the words right out of my mouth!

    Chizik will implement an aggressive attacking defensive scheme which is the most critical element to having success in today's game.



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    Re: Players aside, what has to change?

    New coach is the key to all of it, obviously.

    In addition to the things mentioned, something I'd like our football team to handle better is adversity. Rarely did we handle that well at all last year (almost never in fact) and really - we haven't handled adversity on the football field well for as long as I can remember.

    Yeah, there were a few games where we rebounded in spite of adversity - yet the norm was - when something went wrong - we couldn't overcome it.

    Football, in addition to being about strength, mental toughness, etc - is about how you respond to adversity.

    I expect the new staff to prepare our team for these situations better than our guys have been in the past. Otherwise, we'll keep spinning our wheels in Ames.



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    Re: Players aside, what has to change?

    Good point on the adversity. The lone exception last year might have been the Mizzou game.

    Over the past decade, the only time we overcame (or nearly) would be Seneca's senior year coming back on FSU & Iowa. But beyond those, one need not look any further than our final games when we had the north crown on the line against Mizzou and KU.



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    Re: Players aside, what has to change?

    I don't think we faced adverse situations during the game really. If I was to think of a situation where we overcame adversity last season - it would be the UNI game - down 14 at the half to a team that shouldn't even be on the same field as we are.

    Other than that, when the things got bad, we got worse.

    Great examples on both sides from the past - FSU and Iowa were some amazing games. So were those regular season finale's that we gave away - amazing meaning something different entirely there.



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    Re: Players aside, what has to change?

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUFan22 View Post
    New coach is the key to all of it, obviously.

    In addition to the things mentioned, something I'd like our football team to handle better is adversity. Rarely did we handle that well at all last year (almost never in fact) and really - we haven't handled adversity on the football field well for as long as I can remember.

    Yeah, there were a few games where we rebounded in spite of adversity - yet the norm was - when something went wrong - we couldn't overcome it.

    Football, in addition to being about strength, mental toughness, etc - is about how you respond to adversity.

    I expect the new staff to prepare our team for these situations better than our guys have been in the past. Otherwise, we'll keep spinning our wheels in Ames.
    I think it's going to help a lot that Chizik has a background of overcoming adversity and flat out success (Auburn and Texas) where as McCarney didn't have that kind of experience (Iowa and Wisky)


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