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    Great read on non-con scheduling

    I found this read in the Wall Street Journal to be extremely interesting. Makes you think twice about any sort of stance on playing games in Arrowhead with Kansas State.

    College Football's Early Season Is About to Get More Exciting - WSJ.com



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    Re: Great read on non-con scheduling

    "If you believe you have to schedule four easy wins to stay in this business, you're not going to be very successful overall."


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    Re: Great read on non-con scheduling

    After reading this, it seems like this scheduling could go into a cycle. Schools are starting to figure out that they could get more money by playing better quality opponents but if everybody starts to do, then other marquee games starts to lose some luster. Then teams will start to schedule cupcakes to play at home if they can't get the television revenue they would like and play for the easy wins.



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    Re: Great read on non-con scheduling

    I think it will always be about money. There is just too big of an incentive with some of these match-ups to pass up. However, I can more than understand why most coaches who's teams are consitantly in the top 15 don't want them in the first few weeks - think about it, after the first week of football, most likely #5 Boise State or #6 VT will be out of the national title hunt. Not to say that either would/deserve to be there, but to know you are out of it after week one makes you wonder why you'd put yourself in that position.

    I have always thought that the 'Subjective' way we have teams play for a national championship is rediculous.


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    Re: Great read on non-con scheduling

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisMWilliams View Post
    I found this read in the Wall Street Journal to be extremely interesting. Makes you think twice about any sort of stance on playing games in Arrowhead with Kansas State.

    College Football's Early Season Is About to Get More Exciting - WSJ.com
    A reason I started the Indiana cakewalk thread is this general feeling I have...

    ISU is not a football power. We have great fans and we look to be on the rise, but we're no juggernaut.

    That said, if we have Indiana's schedule, there's at least a 95% chance we're 4-0 entering conference play. How is that competition? When an average at best team can schedule the start of it's own season for 1/3 of the games to be automatic wins?

    To me it cheapens the nature of competition. I'm not saying it makes sense to schedule 3 or even two powerhouse teams... but to not even have one game on the third of the schedule you control yourself who can beat you? It's fake, like WWF.

    Our series with Iowa alone guarantees we never have a schedule like Indiana's this year. Were we to have 4 open games to schedule, and they were all horrible FCS teams and horrible Sun Belt teams (we're not even talking UNI or Northern Illinois here) I'd be freaking embarrassed of our fake WWF schedule.



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    Re: Great read on non-con scheduling

    Great article; however, I think one major point was missed. The reason why most schools schedule at least 3 cupcakes out of 4 non-conference games is the need to get to 6 wins to be bowl eligible. There are a lot more bowls then there were 10 or 20 years ago and schools want to get to 6 wins at all costs. Therefore, I dont' see scheduling cupcakes changing anytime in the near future.



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    Re: Great read on non-con scheduling

    Quote Originally Posted by CyBelieve View Post
    think about it, after the first week of football, most likely #5 Boise State or #6 VT will be out of the national title hunt.
    Taking a loss week 1 leaves you with a better shot at a national title than a loss in week 9. If you rattle off 12 straight after week 1 (conference title), you're still going to probably have a shot at the title game.



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    Re: Great read on non-con scheduling

    Quote Originally Posted by IcSyU View Post
    Taking a loss week 1 leaves you with a better shot at a national title than a loss in week 9. If you rattle off 12 straight after week 1 (conference title), you're still going to probably have a shot at the title game.
    This is true. With the convoluted short-term memory nature of the BCS, it's safer to lose early, if you're going to be a one-loss team. If you're in the mix at the end of the season, you may get a pass if that September loss came vs. a top-notch program.

    I say if you're a big-time team, schedule a compelling matchup early in the season. There's a risk for a loss, and it could bump you out of title-game contention, but only two teams get to play in that one, anyway. Win it, and you have a leg up.


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    Re: Great read on non-con scheduling

    A game in Chicago would be a good idea



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    Re: Great read on non-con scheduling

    I would say you also need to look at the team in question when looking at these types of things. They use that Chik-Fil-A kickoff as an example. Teams playing on national TV and making $2M each. Well, that is fine when you are Alabama or LSU and you can sell out the Georgia dome months in advance and ESPN will beg and plead to air you in prime time. These are also schools who have earned their stripes and are gunning for a national title. You should be ready to prove your place in that regard with some quality wins.

    This dynamic does not exist for a school like ISU. We are not going to sell out a neutral site game. The closest thing we had was maybe 50k for the FSU game, and that was at a stadium 4 hours from campus. And unless we are the only game going, we probably aren't going to score a big TV spot, even if we are playing a top school. As such, thinking we are missing multi-million dollar paydays with our scheduling is way off the mark.

    We need different things than a school like Bama. We need to develop a culture of winning. We need to build the fanbase. We need to go to bowl games and start pulling in higher caliber recruits. For our goals, we need to concentrate on wins and bowls. And that should mean cupcake city in the non-con and trying to find 7 home games no matter what. Once the success is sustained for a few years, the money will come. And when the program matures we may be in a place to re-evaluate our scheduling. But as for right now, this approach is not for us.



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    Re: Great read on non-con scheduling

    The first thing is get to 6 wins and a bowl game. If you can win 6+ in conference, you're likely looking at a conference championship and BCS bowl. If you're one of the top two in your conference, then you schedule a big non-con game or two, hope things work out and shoot for the BCS championship game.

    The biggest benefit for ISU is that the cupcake schools don't have as much economic clout, and we can schedule more home-game-only series and/or pay less to get them here.


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