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    Camp Report: The running backs

    Info on Shontrelle Johnson and the overall battle to back up A-Rob. Enjoy.

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    Re: Camp Report: The running backs

    Thanks Chris this sheds a lot more light. I like the depth we do have and am very excited to see how they can use all that talent. Last year was scary because everyone was waiting on Bo Williams to step up and be the guy florida wanted and Schwartz was just over matched in the Big 12. Hope all this gives us quite a good future.



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    Re: Camp Report: The running backs

    If he is ready, give Johnson his touches.
    This. If he's not ready, the other guys play. If he is ready and the coaches think it's at the opener, I see no reason he shouldn't be the 2nd man in.

    Was reading someplace else (can't recall where) that one of the others would be the #2 for now as they've been in the program more - but felt Johnson was the better running back.

    Why...if Johnson is better, should he not play right away? ISU is not a school that can afford to have their best athletes on the bench just because the others have been around longer.



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    Re: Camp Report: The running backs

    The lack of depth at this position has really hurt us lately, notably last season and in '05. I hope this new depth is actual depth and not gum-bumping. I believe it to be the former and that should make for a fun fall!



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    Re: Camp Report: The running backs

    Whats Woody's 40 time?
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    Re: Camp Report: The running backs

    Great work as always Chris. It's promising to see Woody in there at number 2, this shows the hype from the spring about him was legit. I like what you/the coaches have to say about SJ, he's gonna be a playmaker. BB is going to be a dependable guy in there and James White sounds like an explosive guy. Nice to see Hollis is coming along well too. Everything in that article is what you want to see out of a running back group.

    This article has me jacked up! Only 20 more days!



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    Re: Camp Report: The running backs

    Quote Originally Posted by headington View Post
    Whats Woody's 40 time?
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    Warning: thread derailment of accuracy of 40 times ahead.



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    Re: Camp Report: The running backs

    Quote Originally Posted by farminclone View Post
    Warning: thread derailment of accuracy of 40 times ahead.
    I heard he ran a 3.8 40



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    Re: Camp Report: The running backs

    Do you think there is a chance that we could see him returning kicks or punts? If the guy can make people miss, why not get him on the field. He's obviously not going to be taking too many snaps at running back where you don't want him returning. I know we've had some bad experiences with freshman fumbling on punt returns in recent years, but Leonard Johnson had great success returning kicks his freshman year.



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    Re: Camp Report: The running backs

    Quote Originally Posted by mizouse87 View Post
    I heard he ran a 3.8 40
    Confirmed.



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    Re: Camp Report: The running backs

    What is the status of Bo Williams and his headaches? I know he recently had knee surgery, but I have not heard anything about the other problems he was having. I feel sorry for the guy. I doubt he was or is ever going to live up to the hype, but it would be nice if he was healthy enough to contribute.



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    Re: Camp Report: The running backs

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUFan22 View Post
    This. If he's not ready, the other guys play. If he is ready and the coaches think it's at the opener, I see no reason he shouldn't be the 2nd man in.

    Was reading someplace else (can't recall where) that one of the others would be the #2 for now as they've been in the program more - but felt Johnson was the better running back.

    Why...if Johnson is better, should he not play right away? ISU is not a school that can afford to have their best athletes on the bench just because the others have been around longer.
    A better runningback that is new to the system and/or doesn't know all the assignments may not necessarily be the back that gives you the best chance to be successful. There is a lot to learn. A great back who misses blocks/routes/assignments due to not knowing the system is not an asset. If he is ready and is the best, he will play. If he's not they will play whoever helps the team the most.

    I don't think they would ever hold back a player who gave the best chance to win (unless it was due to off the field or disciplinary issues).


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    Re: Camp Report: The running backs

    Quote Originally Posted by ISUFan22 View Post
    The lack of depth at this position has really hurt us lately, notably last season and in '05. I hope this new depth is actual depth and not gum-bumping. I believe it to be the former and that should make for a fun fall!
    I am with you on this, right now, the only guy who's even touched the ball in a game (other than ARob) is Bo. We may have some depth, or maybe its just a good 2 deep, but honestly, guys can be athletic and physical and be great in a lot of areas, but if they're lacking in just one dimmension of the game they quickly become a liability. If they can't catch, or pick up blitzes, or if they're bad on screens, if they're a little loose with the ball, any one of those can derail our offense quickly. Until I see them perform on the field, this is still a big concern of mine.



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    Re: Camp Report: The running backs

    Quote Originally Posted by synapticwave View Post
    I am with you on this, right now, the only guy who's even touched the ball in a game (other than ARob) is Bo. We may have some depth, or maybe its just a good 2 deep, but honestly, guys can be athletic and physical and be great in a lot of areas, but if they're lacking in just one dimmension of the game they quickly become a liability. If they can't catch, or pick up blitzes, or if they're bad on screens, if they're a little loose with the ball, any one of those can derail our offense quickly. Until I see them perform on the field, this is still a big concern of mine.
    I believe Beau also got a few carries in the end of the Kent State game if I'm not mistaken. But overall, I completely agree with your statement. The good thing is at least we have about 4 guys who have showed some promise.



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    Re: Camp Report: The running backs

    Quote Originally Posted by VeloClone View Post
    A better runningback that is new to the system and/or doesn't know all the assignments may not necessarily be the back that gives you the best chance to be successful. There is a lot to learn. A great back who misses blocks/routes/assignments due to not knowing the system is not an asset. If he is ready and is the best, he will play. If he's not they will play whoever helps the team the most.

    I don't think they would ever hold back a player who gave the best chance to win (unless it was due to off the field or disciplinary issues).
    This is why we may see Woody come out of fall practice as being listed #2. He has been touted as the most consistent and fundamentally sound backup so far. However, I don't think his physical ability compares to SJ. Woody will be able to give us the consistent backup and SJ will be given the opportunity to show his progress and provide a gamebreaking element. I think there will be a lot of carries spread around to the backups and the hot hand that game will get the most production.



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