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    Can someone explain how ISU has the worst APR in the Big 12?

    Can someone please explain to me how ISU has the worst APR in the Big 12 Conference when I believe CPR just said last week that we had the best graduation rate in the league???

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    Re: Can someone explain how ISU has the worst APR in the Big 12?

    I blame chizik.


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    Re: Can someone explain how ISU has the worst APR in the Big 12?

    4 year average...coaching changes.



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    Re: Can someone explain how ISU has the worst APR in the Big 12?

    ALso we have established in another thread that Baylor cheats so that is why they are number 1.


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    Re: Can someone explain how ISU has the worst APR in the Big 12?

    They cheat in basketball :)

    Not sure about football, as I believe this is football only?


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    Re: Can someone explain how ISU has the worst APR in the Big 12?

    It's football only, and it's just for the year. Also, it's the 08-09 season, not the 09-10 season that was just played. However, I would like to know a couple things...

    1) Why was it only just posted on the Big 12 blog? AR over on the Big 10 blog had the APR scores up like 2 months ago....

    EDIT: I think it had to do with the Big 10 expansion talks, so academics kept coming up on the blog.

    2) Is ISU facing any sort of NCAA sanctions or anything? As per the blog...
    "Anything below 925 can result in NCAA penalties to a program, and anything below 900 can result in big-time "historical sanctions" like reduction in financial aid and postseason bans"


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    Re: Can someone explain how ISU has the worst APR in the Big 12?

    How does Rhoads get the 2008-2009 APR on him? I guess he was coach for more of that school year than Chizik was. Not surprising to have that during a year of a coaching change.



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    Re: Can someone explain how ISU has the worst APR in the Big 12?

    if you look up ISU womens basketball its a perfect 1000 for Fennelley...thats a good thing.



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    Re: Can someone explain how ISU has the worst APR in the Big 12?

    Quote Originally Posted by MookInLincoln View Post
    Can someone please explain to me how ISU has the worst APR in the Big 12 Conference when I believe CPR just said last week that we had the best graduation rate in the league???
    Wasn't he bragging about the ISU grad rate in the entire athletic department? Because that's the only figure I've ever seen.
    BTW, we have ISU's women's sports to thank for that.



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    Re: Can someone explain how ISU has the worst APR in the Big 12?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tornado man View Post
    Wasn't he bragging about the ISU grad rate in the entire athletic department? Because that's the only figure I've ever seen.
    BTW, we have ISU's women's sports to thank for that.
    I thought he specifically said football, but I could be wrong.


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    Re: Can someone explain how ISU has the worst APR in the Big 12?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tornado man View Post
    Wasn't he bragging about the ISU grad rate in the entire athletic department? Because that's the only figure I've ever seen.
    BTW, we have ISU's women's sports to thank for that.
    I thought during media day he said that the department was highest in the conference, but the football team was somethimg like second in the conference.



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    Re: Can someone explain how ISU has the worst APR in the Big 12?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tornado man View Post
    Wasn't he bragging about the ISU grad rate in the entire athletic department? Because that's the only figure I've ever seen.
    BTW, we have ISU's women's sports to thank for that.
    Actually, men's basketball has a multi-year APR of 907, but in 08-09 it was 980.
    Football has a multi-year APR of 926, but 08-09 was 889.

    The lowest score for any other sport, multi-year or 08-09, men's or women's, is 948. Of note:

    Men's cross country 970/967
    Men's golf 966/1000
    Wrestling 985/1000

    Most of the women's sports are indeed quite high -- lots of 980, 990.

    http://web1.ncaa.org/app_data/apr2009/311_2009_apr.pdf


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    Re: Can someone explain how ISU has the worst APR in the Big 12?

    So -- how did we get an 889? All I really remember is -- I thought Rhoads kept just about everyone --current players and recruits -- in the coaching change . . ?


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    Re: Can someone explain how ISU has the worst APR in the Big 12?

    Quote Originally Posted by TedKumsher View Post
    So -- how did we get an 889? All I really remember is -- I thought Rhoads kept just about everyone --current players and recruits -- in the coaching change . . ?
    It's a four-year average. One of those years was under Mac and two were under Chizik.



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    Re: Can someone explain how ISU has the worst APR in the Big 12?

    Quote Originally Posted by kg-cyclone View Post
    4 year average...coaching changes.
    MESSAGE from the NCAA: Pass them (regardless of their academic performance) or we will come after you through the APR system. Wow . . what a great PC system they have developed.



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