Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 31
  1. #1
    Hall-Of-Famer
    Points: 85,174, Level: 90
    Level completed: 80%, Points required for next Level: 376
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    4,708
    Points
    85,174
    Level
    90
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 1
    Given: 0

    Iowa State was going to the Big East?

    The media types would have you believe that ISU was headed to th MWC or MAC. Some of us stated the Big East had shown interest. Kinda looks like the Big East was serious about extending an offer to ISU, KSU, KU and Mizzou.

    Not surprised to see the media ignore this

    Bow before the 20-team Big East - College Basketball Nation Blog - ESPN

    "At the time, most assumed Kansas would attempt to get into the Big Ten or the Mountain West, with a few rumors here and there about a geographically confusing move to the Big East. Apparently, those rumors had something to them, as the Big East considered adding Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State and Missouri if the Big 12 dissolved. From Adam Zagoria:
    “For the 24 hours where it looked like they were leaving [the Big 12], then this idea had legs,” the source said Tuesday at Big East football media day. Added Big East Commissioner John Marinatto: “I think all other conferences had, in the event that the whole Texas move to the Pac-10 occurred, plans in place as to what we were doing and planning that way….I think all of the conferences were prepared to react accordingly.”"


    Sorry if posted already


    Last edited by tazclone; 08-04-2010 at 07:22 AM.
    "Not at the table Carlos."

  2. #2
    Rookie
    Points: 10,441, Level: 30
    Level completed: 82%, Points required for next Level: 109
    Overall activity: 4.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran10000 Experience Points
    LZclone's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Mahomet IL via Laurens IA
    Posts
    491
    Points
    10,441
    Level
    30
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Re: Iowa State was going to the Big East?

    Old News....

    I'm more interested in who is going to join BYU in the new Big XII.



  3. #3
    Hall-Of-Famer
    Points: 85,174, Level: 90
    Level completed: 80%, Points required for next Level: 376
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    4,708
    Points
    85,174
    Level
    90
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 1
    Given: 0

    Re: Iowa State was going to the Big East?

    Quote Originally Posted by LZclone View Post
    Old News....

    I'm more interested in who is going to join BYU in the new Big XII.
    First this was reported yesterday and is the first time the Big East has publicly stated they were going to offer those four.

    Second Not going to happen. the $$$ doesn't pan out


    Last edited by tazclone; 08-04-2010 at 07:25 AM.
    "Not at the table Carlos."

  4. #4
    Addict
    Points: 63,057, Level: 77
    Level completed: 88%, Points required for next Level: 193
    Overall activity: 4.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran50000 Experience PointsRecommendation Second Class
    WalkingCY's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Kansas City
    Posts
    5,095
    Points
    63,057
    Level
    77
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 126
    Given: 143

    Re: Iowa State was going to the Big East?

    I still say go to the Big East if the blow-up begins again. Excellent BB Conference, and we would still have our main rivals in place for FB. Bring KU-KSU and MU with us.



  5. #5
    Addict
    Points: 152,668, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 14.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    temperflare's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Bondurant
    Posts
    7,567
    Points
    152,668
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 282
    Given: 89

    Re: Iowa State was going to the Big East?

    Taz, not to be disrespectful, but we are in the BIGXII and what might have happened doesn't matter at this point.

    Lets just focus on winning the BIGXII so the next time the conference is about to fall apart we have some say in our future and we don't freak out.


    "The difference between keeping what you have all to yourself and coveting what someone else has lies within your willingness to give versus your desire to take"

    - temperflare

  6. #6
    Rookie
    Points: 10,441, Level: 30
    Level completed: 82%, Points required for next Level: 109
    Overall activity: 4.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran10000 Experience Points
    LZclone's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Mahomet IL via Laurens IA
    Posts
    491
    Points
    10,441
    Level
    30
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Re: Iowa State was going to the Big East?

    Quote Originally Posted by tazclone View Post
    First this was reported yesterday and is the first time the Big East has publicly stated they were going to offer those four.

    Second Not going to happen. the $$$ doesn't pan out
    I agree it is interesting that this came out yesterday, and like you my 1st thought was why it took so long, but since it never panned out my second thought was who cares.

    As far as the Big XII being the Big 12 and not 10, I disagree. If the networks are going to honor their contracts, which include a Championship game, eventually they are going to require that game to be played and that means 10 teams. IMO... THE ONLY way the Big XII survives to see 2014 is the addition of two more teams.

    So BYU and who?



  7. #7
    Legend
    Points: 209,332, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 23.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    jbhtexas's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Arlington, TX
    Posts
    10,914
    Points
    209,332
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 254
    Given: 144

    Re: Iowa State was going to the Big East?

    Quote Originally Posted by LZclone View Post
    As far as the Big XII being the Big 12 and not 10, I disagree. If the networks are going to honor their contracts, which include a Championship game, eventually they are going to require that game to be played and that means 10 teams. IMO... THE ONLY way the Big XII survives to see 2014 is the addition of two more teams.
    The TV contracts which are presently paying for the championship game expire shortly, so the championship game is a non-factor. The new contracts will simply be negotiated without a championship game.

    If the conference can get a lucrative TV deal with 10 teams, there is no reason to expand.


    "Don't worry Boss...they can't do nothin' 'til they're through sparklin'..."

    Avatar - America's new superhero...Cenex Guy

  8. #8
    Hall-Of-Famer
    Points: 85,174, Level: 90
    Level completed: 80%, Points required for next Level: 376
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    4,708
    Points
    85,174
    Level
    90
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 1
    Given: 0

    Re: Iowa State was going to the Big East?

    Quote Originally Posted by LZclone View Post
    I agree it is interesting that this came out yesterday, and like you my 1st thought was why it took so long, but since it never panned out my second thought was who cares.

    As far as the Big XII being the Big 12 and not 10, I disagree. If the networks are going to honor their contracts, which include a Championship game, eventually they are going to require that game to be played and that means 10 teams. IMO... THE ONLY way the Big XII survives to see 2014 is the addition of two more teams.

    So BYU and who?
    The Networks honored the contract without a championship game because Beebe promised them a 9 game conference schedule. So instead of 8 weeks of conference games and a Championship game, they get 8 weeks +1 more week which would mean the option to choose from 6 conference games. Considering we usually have 4 televised games, I am assuming the networks see $$4 games$$$ as greater than $$one championship$$$. Or atleast equal. The agreement was for the remainder of the contracts which is only a few years. The new contract will be worth a lot more $$$ just based on market value. The networks (Fox/ESPN/ABC) did this because when Nebbie and CU left, the contract would have had to be renegotiated and they most likely would have had to pay market value or lose the contract. FOX can't afford to lose the Big 12 as they lost the ACC and Turner Sports is making a push.

    Somone needs to tell me why BYU would get the offer? If they bring that much $$$ to the plate then why didn't they get an offer to the PAC 10 instead of Utah? Was it because they wouldn't accept due to religious concerns?


    "Not at the table Carlos."

  9. #9
    Hall-Of-Famer
    Points: 85,174, Level: 90
    Level completed: 80%, Points required for next Level: 376
    Overall activity: 0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    4,708
    Points
    85,174
    Level
    90
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 1
    Given: 0

    Re: Iowa State was going to the Big East?

    Quote Originally Posted by temperflare View Post
    Taz, not to be disrespectful, but we are in the BIGXII and what might have happened doesn't matter at this point.

    Lets just focus on winning the BIGXII so the next time the conference is about to fall apart we have some say in our future and we don't freak out.
    Sorry, but just this weekend I had some idiots asking me if I would have preferred the MWC, MAC, or the Iowa conference. I tried to tell them we would have ended up inthe Big East but they wouldn't believe it. Of course, they get their info from the two buffoons with radio shows in Des Moines.

    Most on here believe the conference realignment issue will come back in a couple of years as soon as our contracts are up. So I thought it was nice to point out that we will have a home if the Big 12 -2 actually dissolves. It could help calm the Chicken Little's of the board.

    I also thought it was an interesting topic to discuss. A little more interesting than "Norton Anitvirus, canoeing, Vote yes on the waterpark, computer help, etc etc, etc." But if you find those more interesting then just don't click on this thread.


    "Not at the table Carlos."

  10. #10
    Addict
    Points: 63,057, Level: 77
    Level completed: 88%, Points required for next Level: 193
    Overall activity: 4.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran50000 Experience PointsRecommendation Second Class
    WalkingCY's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Kansas City
    Posts
    5,095
    Points
    63,057
    Level
    77
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 126
    Given: 143

    Re: Iowa State was going to the Big East?

    [QUOTE=tazclone;1837837]The Networks honored the contract without a championship game because Beebe promised them a 9 game conference schedule. So instead of 8 weeks of conference games and a Championship game, they get 8 weeks +1 more week which would mean the option to choose from 6 conference games. Considering we usually have 4 televised games, I am assuming the networks see $$4 games$$$ as greater than $$one championship$$$. Or atleast equal. The agreement was for the remainder of the contracts which is only a few years. The new contract will be worth a lot more $$$ just based on market value. The networks (Fox/ESPN/ABC) did this because when Nebbie and CU left, the contract would have had to be renegotiated and they most likely would have had to pay market value or lose the contract. FOX can't afford to lose the Big 12 as they lost the ACC and Turner Sports is making a push.

    Somone needs to tell me why BYU would get the offer? If they bring that much $$$ to the plate then why didn't they get an offer to the PAC 10 instead of Utah? Was it because they wouldn't accept due to religious concerns?[/QUOTE]


    From what I heard it was Stanford and Cal that had a problem with bringing a religious school into the fold. Which also forced the hand of the Pac 10 to go and get CU.



  11. #11
    Pro
    Points: 81,009, Level: 88
    Level completed: 48%, Points required for next Level: 941
    Overall activity: 9.0%
    Achievements:
    SocialVeteran50000 Experience Points
    RyCy04's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Omaha, NE
    Posts
    2,355
    Points
    81,009
    Level
    88
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 134
    Given: 13

    Re: Iowa State was going to the Big East?

    Quote Originally Posted by temperflare View Post
    Taz, not to be disrespectful, but we are in the BIGXII and what might have happened doesn't matter at this point.

    Lets just focus on winning the BIGXII so the next time the conference is about to fall apart we have some say in our future and we don't freak out.
    Because this site (or any sports forum) would have so much content if we didn't discuss hypotheticals?



  12. #12
    Speechless
    Points: 272,722, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 4.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    isuno1fan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Clive, Iowa
    Posts
    17,509
    Points
    272,722
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 159
    Given: 31

    Re: Iowa State was going to the Big East?

    Quote Originally Posted by tazclone View Post
    Sorry, but just this weekend I had some idiots asking me if I would have preferred the MWC, MAC, or the Iowa conference. I tried to tell them we would have ended up inthe Big East but they wouldn't believe it. Of course, they get their info from the two buffoons with radio shows in Des Moines.

    Most on here believe the conference realignment issue will come back in a couple of years as soon as our contracts are up. So I thought it was nice to point out that we will have a home if the Big 12 -2 actually dissolves. It could help calm the Chicken Little's of the board.

    I also thought it was an interesting topic to discuss. A little more interesting than "Norton Anitvirus, canoeing, Vote yes on the waterpark, computer help, etc etc, etc." But if you find those more interesting then just don't click on this thread.

    Still don't think we would have ended up in the Big East. The AD didn't like that option.

    Option 1 was to maintain the B12 and add teamsmerge from the MWC.

    Option 2 was likely the Big East.



  13. #13
    Legend
    Points: 209,332, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 23.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran50000 Experience Points
    jbhtexas's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Arlington, TX
    Posts
    10,914
    Points
    209,332
    Level
    100
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 254
    Given: 144

    Re: Iowa State was going to the Big East?

    Quote Originally Posted by tazclone View Post
    Somone needs to tell me why BYU would get the offer?
    Several have been asking the same question. No one has provided a good answer, but yet some have declared BYU as a lock for the Big 12. Supposedly they have a large national following and could bring TV viewers to a Big 12 network, although no one has posted any evidence to support that claim. In another thread, I did a quick calculation showing that their non-con revenue is likely smaller than ISU's. Their athletic budget certainly doesn't indicate revenue consistent with a large national following.

    It's hard to see how adding BYU to the Big 12 would maintain or increase the revenue of the other ten schools. Someone needs to demonstrate how adding BYU will not decrease the revenue of the other ten schools. If that can't be demonstrated, then it makes no sense for the other schools to vote on adding BYU to the conference.


    Last edited by jbhtexas; 08-04-2010 at 08:23 AM.
    "Don't worry Boss...they can't do nothin' 'til they're through sparklin'..."

    Avatar - America's new superhero...Cenex Guy

  14. #14
    Pro
    Points: 101,851, Level: 99
    Level completed: 41%, Points required for next Level: 1,199
    Overall activity: 4.0%
    Achievements:
    50000 Experience PointsVeteran

    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Posts
    3,116
    Points
    101,851
    Level
    99
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 54
    Given: 10

    Re: Iowa State was going to the Big East?

    Quote Originally Posted by tazclone View Post
    Sorry, but just this weekend I had some idiots asking me if I would have preferred the MWC, MAC, or the Iowa conference. I tried to tell them we would have ended up inthe Big East but they wouldn't believe it. Of course, they get their info from the two buffoons with radio shows in Des Moines.
    If Des Moines radio would quit hiring blowhards from Boston, we might get somewhere. Perrault has a buddy at the Big East who told him what he thought/knew and Perrault will NEVER consider that info was incorrect. Because he's from Boston and by default, smarter than us.



  15. #15
    Addict
    Points: 64,163, Level: 78
    Level completed: 58%, Points required for next Level: 687
    Overall activity: 14.0%
    Achievements:
    50000 Experience PointsVeteran

    Join Date
    May 2010
    Posts
    5,007
    Points
    64,163
    Level
    78
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 211
    Given: 45

    Re: Iowa State was going to the Big East?

    Quote Originally Posted by WalkingCY View Post
    I still say go to the Big East if the blow-up begins again. Excellent BB Conference, and we would still have our main rivals in place for FB. Bring KU-KSU and MU with us.
    I don't think going to the Big East would be a long term solution. It would still be the worst BCS football conference and there's no way a conference whose marquee team is West Virginia will be able to land a big TV deal. Also I would think its only a matter of time before a 20 team basketball conference falls apart. There's already been rumors of the non D-1 football playing schools breaking off and forming there own conference.



Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
  • TV: TBD
  • Iowa State vs. Oklahoma
  • November 1, 2014
  • 07:00 PM