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    Re: Cubs and Dodgers Discussing Lilly Trade

    Noooooooooooooo not The Riot!


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    Re: Cubs and Dodgers Discussing Lilly Trade

    The Riot has come into his own and is a bright spot, I hate to see him go!



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    Re: Cubs and Dodgers Discussing Lilly Trade

    I like Theriot, but that is not a terrible loss. Losing Lilly who does nothing but pitch excellent games and get screwed by our terrible offense is.



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    Re: Cubs and Dodgers Discussing Lilly Trade

    Theriot is awful, can't wait to see him go.



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    Re: Cubs and Dodgers Discussing Lilly Trade

    Quote Originally Posted by gocubs2118 View Post
    Theriot is awful, can't wait to see him go.
    Awful?

    He's 4th on the team in average, 4th in runs scored and 2nd in hits - with 3 errors the entire season, and those were probably in that one game last week.

    We have that kind of "awful" across the squad and we may very well be leading the division.



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    Re: Cubs and Dodgers Discussing Lilly Trade

    Quote Originally Posted by DaddyMac View Post
    Awful?

    He's 4th on the team in average, 4th in runs scored and 2nd in hits - with 3 errors the entire season, and those were probably in that one game last week.

    We have that kind of "awful" across the squad and we may very well be leading the division.
    He also led the team in average last year as well. Just because he doesn't hit for power doesn't mean he is "awful".

    And he only makes around $2.5 million I believe. Yep, better trade him only to replace him with someone else making $15+ million and then not produce.



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    Re: Cubs and Dodgers Discussing Lilly Trade

    Quote Originally Posted by cycloneworld View Post
    He also led the team in average last year as well. Just because he doesn't hit for power doesn't mean he is "awful".
    He probably does lead the league in "men left on base" - or at least in being one of the men left on.



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    Re: Cubs and Dodgers Discussing Lilly Trade

    What part of Theriot's game doesn't scream awful? Is it his .321 OBP or maybe his .329 SLG %? His WAR this year -.1, which is pathetic.

    Sorry, he isn't very good. It doesn't do much good if you hit .280 if you can't get past 1st base. I'm sick and tired of Cubs fans overrating him because he is scrappy and "hustles".



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    Re: Cubs and Dodgers Discussing Lilly Trade

    Quote Originally Posted by DaddyMac View Post
    He probably does lead the league in "men left on base" - or at least in being one of the men left on.
    Followed closely behind by the rest of the roster??



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    Re: Cubs and Dodgers Discussing Lilly Trade

    Quote Originally Posted by cycloneworld View Post
    He also led the team in average last year as well. Just because he doesn't hit for power doesn't mean he is "awful".

    And he only makes around $2.5 million I believe. Yep, better trade him only to replace him with someone else making $15+ million and then not produce.
    If you aren't going to hit for power, you better be able to get on base at a decent clip. Theriot doesn't do that, at all.



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    Re: Cubs and Dodgers Discussing Lilly Trade

    Quote Originally Posted by cycloneworld View Post
    Followed closely behind by the rest of the roster??
    Valid...



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    Re: Cubs and Dodgers Discussing Lilly Trade

    Quote Originally Posted by gocubs2118 View Post
    What part of Theriot's game doesn't scream awful? Is it his .321 OBP or maybe his .329 SLG %? His WAR this year -.1, which is pathetic.

    Sorry, he isn't very good. It doesn't do much good if you hit .280 if you can't get past 1st base. I'm sick and tired of Cubs fans overrating him because he is scrappy and "hustles".
    If you want to use actual stats...Theriot is one of the better "awful" guys on the team.



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    Re: Cubs and Dodgers Discussing Lilly Trade

    Quote Originally Posted by cycloneworld View Post
    If you want to use actual stats...Theriot is one of the better "awful" guys on the team.
    No he's not. If he's going to play, he better be hitting 8th. I'd take everyone in the starting lineup over him.



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    Re: Cubs and Dodgers Discussing Lilly Trade

    Quote Originally Posted by gocubs2118 View Post
    If you aren't going to hit for power, you better be able to get on base at a decent clip. Theriot doesn't do that, at all.
    Yeah - his OBP isn't stellar by any strech. Still only 10th on the squad, but there are about 5 regulars in front of him (Soto, Byrd, Lee, Soriano, Castro)

    Still don't think that makes him horrid.

    I was thinking a few weeks back, who do we really WANT back next year? I'd have to say Theriot is on the short list. But as stated - losing him is far from the end of the world. And in true Cubs tradition, he'll probably get shipped off somewhere and become a 5 time All Star.

    But rejoice Cub fans - headline on Cubs.com is announcing Big Z coming back.....



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