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    Should coaches talk to victims after a player commits a crime?

    I'm not talking anything specific here, but what are your feelings on a coach or coaching staff member getting involved in a situation when a player commits a crime?

    Should it be an absolute no-no?

    Should it be done on a case by case basis?

    Do you think it's fine as long as he doesn't involve himself too deeply?



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    Re: Should coaches talk to victims after a player commits a crime?

    The coaching staff should not get involved, except in disciplinary actions.



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    Re: Should coaches talk to victims after a player commits a crime?

    First time I have commented on any of the Sims stuff so I say this:

    We pay the coaches a lot of money to do what they do so let's let them do it. CPR has done nothing to make us think he isn't made of the highest moral fiber so I trust that he is making the right decisions no matter what they are and I back him 100%. No matter what happens, we will never know the WHOLE story so we just have to trust in the coaches to do that right thing with the information they have.

    That said, to answer your question, I think it would be a case by case basis. Sometimes it would be relevant to know what the victim thinks and what kind of justice they would want, while other times I would think it would be in bad taste to go to them.

    All in all, I really think it depends on the conversation that is had.


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    Re: Should coaches talk to victims after a player commits a crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by RossHallHero View Post
    I'm not talking anything specific here, but what are your feelings on a coach or coaching staff member getting involved in a situation when a player commits a crime?

    Should it be an absolute no-no?

    Should it be done on a case by case basis?

    Do you think it's fine as long as he doesn't involve himself too deeply?
    NEVER!



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    Re: Should coaches talk to victims after a player commits a crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by rhillary View Post
    First time I have commented on any of the Sims stuff so I say this:

    We pay the coaches a lot of money to do what they do so let's let them do it. CPR has done nothing to make us think he isn't made of the highest moral fiber so I trust that he is making the right decisions no matter what they are and I back him 100%. No matter what happens, we will never know the WHOLE story so we just have to trust in the coaches to do that right thing with the information they have.

    That said, to answer your question, I think it would be a case by case basis. Sometimes it would be relevant to know what the victim thinks and what kind of justice they would want, while other times I would think it would be in bad taste to go to them.

    All in all, I really think it depends on the conversation that is had.
    You actually believe there is a time that it's appropriate for a coach - a football coach - to get involved in a criminal investigation?

    All depending on "the conversation?"

    Good God. You're off the reservation.



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    Re: Should coaches talk to victims after a player commits a crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by DolphLundgren View Post
    You actually believe there is a time that it's appropriate for a coach - a football coach - to get involved in a criminal investigation?

    All depending on "the conversation?"

    Good God. You're off the reservation.
    Never said that. The question was "talk with the victim". If something went down but there ends up being no charges, as a coach I would want to hear from my player and then from the victim (both sides of the story) what went down.

    I am the type that wants to get AS MUCH INFO AS POSSIBLE before I make my decision, and for something like kicking a player off a full-ride scholarship, I think they are entitled to hear all sides.

    Why I said "depends on the conversation" is because at NO POINT should a coach put his 2 cents in or try and "sway" a victim into not pressing charges.

    If that makes me "off the reservation" then whatever. There is a lot crazier things in the world than wanting to hear both sides of a incident...


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    Re: Should coaches talk to victims after a player commits a crime?

    Only person who suggested our coach has done such is a hawk fan.

    Let's let it go.


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    Re: Should coaches talk to victims after a player commits a crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by BoxsterCy View Post
    NEVER!
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    Re: Should coaches talk to victims after a player commits a crime?

    What if the victim is another athlete under the same coach?



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    Re: Should coaches talk to victims after a player commits a crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by cstrunk View Post
    The coaching staff should not get involved, except in disciplinary actions.
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    Re: Should coaches talk to victims after a player commits a crime?

    No, he should only deal with the player..... And seriosuly let it go. CPR or none other other coaches have talked to the victim or so we know. That was started by a hawk..



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    Re: Should coaches talk to victims after a player commits a crime?

    No, let the Cops investigate and to see what happens.

    If this involves athletes under the same coach, I believe the victim will go to the coach first and see what is the most appropriate course of action. I don't think in this case, the victim will directly go to the cops (unless it's case of assault or anything resulting in injuries)

    Going to the victim, regardless what the conversation is intended to, is an extremely bad publicity for the coaching staff and the university.



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    Re: Should coaches talk to victims after a player commits a crime?

    Where do you draw the line? Having KF or CPR administer the rape kit?

    The idea that a public university would sanction a coach they pay, one who is obviously and unquestionably biased towards their own player, to get involved with the victims of a criminal investigation is stupidly ludicrous. Stupidicrous.



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    Re: Should coaches talk to victims after a player commits a crime?

    Here is what the coaches should say...........I'm not involved, except to diciplin the offender if an offense did occure.



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    Re: Should coaches talk to victims after a player commits a crime?

    i think CPR needs to take *cough cough* sims *cough cough* and give him a nice personal talk like this:



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