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    For anyone who knows anything about lawn care, is it ok to apply Scotts Turf Builder Plus 2 (weed control) twice in a year? I put some down in mid April and it performed well up until a few weeks ago. Weeds are starting to grow again in various places, so instead of Scotts Summerguard, I was wondering if I can put another round of Plus 2 down without damaging or harming the lawn? Thanks.



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    Re: Lawn Fertilizer??

    Sure, but I think you'll have better results if you put down the Summerguard and then spray Ortho for the weeds.



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    Re: Lawn Fertilizer??

    What does the bag say.... I doubt it is a problem. Put it on in he morning because of the moisture to hold he weed killer or after the rain. Again I don't remember he precautions what does the bag say. I think you should consider temperature right now as bigger issue. Not sure where you live but 90 degree temps don't go well with dry ferts. Go liguid or organic right during the heat and just spot treat the weeds.
    Quote Originally Posted by cytheguy View Post
    For anyone who knows anything about lawn care, is it ok to apply Scotts Turf Builder Plus 2 (weed control) twice in a year? I put some down in mid April and it performed well up until a few weeks ago. Weeds are starting to grow again in various places, so instead of Scotts Summerguard, I was wondering if I can put another round of Plus 2 down without damaging or harming the lawn? Thanks.


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    Re: Lawn Fertilizer??

    Quote Originally Posted by cytheguy View Post
    For anyone who knows anything about lawn care, is it ok to apply Scotts Turf Builder Plus 2 (weed control) twice in a year? I put some down in mid April and it performed well up until a few weeks ago. Weeds are starting to grow again in various places, so instead of Scotts Summerguard, I was wondering if I can put another round of Plus 2 down without damaging or harming the lawn? Thanks.
    I think it's OK but as someone else said, unless your yard is too big, I'd spray for weeds the 2nd time around. If you don't put weed 'n feed down when it's wet out it won't stick to the weeds and that could be why you're seeing some weed growth now. I have an Ortho Dial 'n Spray that hooks up to my hose and does a great job.



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    Re: Lawn Fertilizer??

    To clarify, most weed and feed are Not preventing weeds unless it is a crabgrass prevention in the spring. Weed killer in the bag only kills actively growing weeds. So if the weed is still a seed or late fall, you won't kill the weed therefore spending money and spreading chemicals that wont work. Rather than a spray and pray approach several times through the year, weed and feed once early then just spot treat. Has worked well for me.


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    Re: Lawn Fertilizer??

    Best way to control weeds. Hire a lawn service.



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    Re: Lawn Fertilizer??

    Quote Originally Posted by terryk View Post
    Best way to control weeds. Hire a lawn service.
    Thanks for the good laugh.


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    Re: Lawn Fertilizer??

    Quote Originally Posted by terryk View Post
    Best way to control weeds. Hire a lawn service.
    Fixed it for ya. Because I am certain you couldn't have been serious.



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    Re: Lawn Fertilizer??

    I just moved to a new house. Lawn was in tough shape.

    Fertilized with my own mix, not sure why most the store brands are so high in N and are forgetting the P and K.

    Then sprayed with basically a 2-4D mix for the weeds. Run the sprinklers, mowed at a higher level and after 6 weeks the lawn looks great.



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    Re: Lawn Fertilizer??

    Quote Originally Posted by chadm View Post
    Fertilized with my own mix, not sure why most the store brands are so high in N and are forgetting the P and K.
    The main reason is they want to minimize urban runoff of P that gets into the Gulf IIRC.




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    Quote Originally Posted by isuaggie View Post
    The main reason is they want to minimize urban runoff of P that gets into the Gulf IIRC.
    Without P how are the plants suppose to support the N without the P to help the other nutrients and water travel through the plant?



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    Re: Lawn Fertilizer??

    Quote Originally Posted by chadm View Post
    I just moved to a new house. Lawn was in tough shape.

    Fertilized with my own mix, not sure why most the store brands are so high in N and are forgetting the P and K.

    Then sprayed with basically a 2-4D mix for the weeds. Run the sprinklers, mowed at a higher level and after 6 weeks the lawn looks great.
    I agree on the fertilizer. The best mix of fertilizer I have found is half potash (0-0-60) and have DAP (18-46-0) which gives you a 9-23-30. Set that a little lower then you would apply the Scott's(or pick your brand) and do that a couple times a year and you'll be golden. Go to a Coop and ask for that mix. A heck of a lot cheaper and a heck of a lot better product.

    First number is the Nitrogen which affects the growth of the grass on top of the ground. I want a nice looking lawn but don't want to mow all the damn time.

    The second two numbers are the phosphorous and potassium. They affect the growth of grass below the soil. They stimulate root growth and develop drought tolerance in your grass this time of year. They give the grass a good greenish blue color but don't send the grass into a growing frenzy.

    I know the phosphorous is limited in lawn fertilizers to minimize runoff, but if you don't overapply the stuff, you don't have to worry about runoff.



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    Re: Lawn Fertilizer??

    Quote Originally Posted by cytheguy View Post
    For anyone who knows anything about lawn care, is it ok to apply Scotts Turf Builder Plus 2 (weed control) twice in a year? I put some down in mid April and it performed well up until a few weeks ago. Weeds are starting to grow again in various places, so instead of Scotts Summerguard, I was wondering if I can put another round of Plus 2 down without damaging or harming the lawn? Thanks.
    not a good time of the year to fertilize your lawn. spot treat your weeds now, and fertilize Sept. 1st and Nov. 1st. Lawns can't utilize the fertilizer this time of year, so it is all wasted.


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    Re: Lawn Fertilizer??

    Quote Originally Posted by CyPride View Post
    not a good time of the year to fertilize your lawn. spot treat your weeds now, and fertilize Sept. 1st and Nov. 1st. Lawns can't utilize the fertilizer this time of year, so it is all wasted.
    Not always correct, if the lawn is growing, it can utilize the fertilizer. If it is brown and ugly, you are correct.



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    Re: Lawn Fertilizer??

    Quote Originally Posted by cytheguy View Post
    For anyone who knows anything about lawn care, is it ok to apply Scotts Turf Builder Plus 2 (weed control) twice in a year? I put some down in mid April and it performed well up until a few weeks ago. Weeds are starting to grow again in various places, so instead of Scotts Summerguard, I was wondering if I can put another round of Plus 2 down without damaging or harming the lawn? Thanks.
    I have a lot of barnyard grass showing up in my yard this year. I know the wet year contributes and I normally apply a pre-emergent too. Spraying now won't help but digging it out appears to be the only alternative at this time. Would the application of the 9-23-30 mix help this for next year? Any other thoughts?



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