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    Re: Red Light Speed Cameras coming to Des Moines

    Should be able to lay off some cops then right?


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    Re: Red Light Speed Cameras coming to Des Moines

    BOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!


    Yeah TOAST!!!

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    Re: Red Light Speed Cameras coming to Des Moines

    Oh wonderful

    Maybe they should raise the speed limit instead. The freeway isnt cramped like it used to be, and aside from about 20-30min on either end of the day, its very much wide open.



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    Re: Red Light Speed Cameras coming to Des Moines

    Quote Originally Posted by simply1 View Post
    Should be able to lay off some cops then right?
    or more like they wouldnt have to hire any back after theyve fired so many lately



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    Re: Red Light Speed Cameras coming to Des Moines

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    BOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
    I second this.



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    Re: Red Light Speed Cameras coming to Des Moines

    The red light cameras don't bother me that much as I don't run red lights but I'm not happy about the speed cameras on 235. It'll just clog crap up.


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    Re: Red Light Speed Cameras coming to Des Moines

    As someone that does not think 55 has been anything but a suggestion, this could be a significant issue for me on 235...



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    Re: Red Light Speed Cameras coming to Des Moines

    Quote Originally Posted by sunnysideup View Post
    The red light cameras don't bother me that much as I don't run red lights but I'm not happy about the speed cameras on 235. It'll just clog crap up.
    Indeed, let traffic flow. Its not like theres been big problems with lots of accidents due to speed on 235.. plenty of speeding, for sure, but thats because the speed limit is set way lower than it ever should be, so the vast majority break the limit.



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    Re: Red Light Speed Cameras coming to Des Moines

    Quote Originally Posted by justcynn View Post
    As someone that does not think 55 has been anything but a suggestion, this could be a significant issue for me on 235...
    I as well. Its always 50\50 for me whether to take 235 or I-80 from WDM, i think this'll make that decision a bit easier.



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    Re: Red Light Speed Cameras coming to Des Moines

    Nothing but a money grab.


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    Re: Red Light Speed Cameras coming to Des Moines

    Quote Originally Posted by michaelrr1 View Post
    Nothing but a money grab.
    That's the main problem I have with these cameras. Put one up, shorten the yellow, and you are ready for some extra income.



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    Re: Red Light Speed Cameras coming to Des Moines

    If you read the article, it says that there will be a warning sign before each camera. There is no reason to worry if you pay attention and obey the signs on the road which most people should be doing anyways.


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    Re: Red Light Speed Cameras coming to Des Moines

    Its got to look weird when these are installed. Do people just drive 10-15 over the limit until they see the sign and then speed up again once past? So its really just a virtual speed bump that generates cash. I would imagine that they will bait you in with the signs and then they will start having speed traps 2 miles after them so they can double dip and also catch the drivers that saw the sign and then sped up again.



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    Re: Red Light Speed Cameras coming to Des Moines

    Quote Originally Posted by phipsiclones View Post
    If you read the article, it says that there will be a warning sign before each camera. There is no reason to worry if you pay attention and obey the signs on the road which most people should be doing anyways.
    Thats alright for the stoplights (as long as they dont shorten the yellow, which they do in many cases), but for speeding cameras, i think they really need to reexamine the speed limits in those areas first.



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