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    Re: NCAA Finalizes Extra Games for 68 Team Field

    Did I read that correct that the number one seeds will probably play the lower at large teams and the number 2 seeds will play the worst teams in the first round?



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    Re: NCAA Finalizes Extra Games for 68 Team Field

    I still wish this expansion was aimed at making at-larges play to get to the first full weekend...let the AQ's enjoy the week leading up to the tourney!


    Last edited by cyfanatic; 07-12-2010 at 03:12 PM.

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    Re: NCAA Finalizes Extra Games for 68 Team Field

    Someone please tell me why it is not just the 16 seeds playing the "first round"? You are giving an advantage to some lower seeds over the last at large teams to make it in. If those at large teams do not deserve to be the #12 seed (in this example), make them the 16 or 17 seed. If they do deserve to be there, don't make them play a bogus extra game. If teams are bad enough to be seeded 16, they should be playing the extra games.


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    Re: NCAA Finalizes Extra Games for 68 Team Field

    Well thats stupid. All 8 teams that play in this first round should be at large teams.



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    Re: NCAA Finalizes Extra Games for 68 Team Field

    Quote Originally Posted by cyfanatic View Post
    I still wish this expansion was aimed at making at-larges play to get to the first full weekend...let the AQ's enjoy the week leading up to the tourney!
    That would be cool actually.



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    Re: NCAA Finalizes Extra Games for 68 Team Field

    Quote Originally Posted by gocubs2118 View Post
    Well thats stupid. All 8 teams that play in this first round should be at large teams.
    If you do that, those teams should be the 16 and 17 seeds. Why would you have higher seeded teams playing in?


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    Re: NCAA Finalizes Extra Games for 68 Team Field

    I'm going to go with "it's stupid they moved from 64 in the first place"

    Granted, it's hard to argue against more tourney basketball. But this is all so half-arsed.



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    Re: NCAA Finalizes Extra Games for 68 Team Field

    Quote Originally Posted by VeloClone View Post
    If you do that, those teams should be the 16 and 17 seeds. Why would you have higher seeded teams playing in?
    Because they were the last teams to make the tournament. Why punish the smaller schools?



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    Re: NCAA Finalizes Extra Games for 68 Team Field

    I need to see it in bracket form to help my understand.


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    Re: NCAA Finalizes Extra Games for 68 Team Field

    Quote Originally Posted by gocubs2118 View Post
    Because they were the last teams to make the tournament. Why punish the smaller schools?
    Then why have a seeding process at all if not to reward teams that earned a higher seed with an easier path to advance? If the last at large teams in earned nothing more than a 16 or 17 seed give it to them. If a team went 4-20 in the regular season and won their conference tournament they should be seeded appropriately and have the harder path if that is what is appropriate.

    Perhaps the problem is with Auto Qualifiers in the first place...


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    Re: NCAA Finalizes Extra Games for 68 Team Field

    Quote Originally Posted by mj4cy View Post
    I need to see it in bracket form to help my understand.
    1 vs (16a/16b) [two regions will have this line, the other two will just have 1 vs 16]
    8 vs 9
    5 vs 12
    4 vs 13
    3 vs 14
    6 vs 11
    7 vs 10
    2 vs 15

    For the "last 4 at-large teams", two regions will have something like this:
    1 vs 16
    8 vs 9
    5 vs (12a/12b)**
    4 vs 13
    3 vs 14
    6 vs 11
    7 vs 10
    2 vs 15
    **or could be on the 6/11 line, or the 7/10 line



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    Re: NCAA Finalizes Extra Games for 68 Team Field

    Quote Originally Posted by gocubs2118 View Post
    Because they were the last teams to make the tournament. Why punish the smaller schools?
    Just because the smaller schools made it in earlier due to automatic bid agreements doesnt mean theyre any more deserving of being in the tourney than those at-larges. Those at larges often played a much tougher schedule down the stretch and had to earn their way into the tourney by competing against the best of the best. Most often there are teams left out of the tourney that are more deserving than some of the lower auto-qualifiers.

    This is dumb, Shouldve just had all the 16 seeds play a play in game against 17 seeds. If you dont want to be in that play-in game, get better than a 16 seed.


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    Re: NCAA Finalizes Extra Games for 68 Team Field

    I don't like this at all. I guess I assumed that they were doing this to create symmetry in the brackets. If they want the last at large teams to play, then they need to do that in every region. This also gives the #5 seeds big advantage and could actually create a situation that one of these two positions are better than getting a #4 seed.



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    Re: NCAA Finalizes Extra Games for 68 Team Field

    I would have preferred if all 8 first round teams were at-large teams. I am however, pleasantly surprised they had the guts to at least make 4 of them play. I fully expected this new format to cave into the power conferences and make the smaller conference champions play the first round.



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