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    Bigger bust NFL

    JaMarcus Russell or Ryan Leaf? I would say Russell. He even held out as a rookie and was drafted number 1. I would say Tony Mandarich is in the discusion just due to the fact he was drafted ahead of Barry Sanders.

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    Re: Bigger bust NFL

    The prestigious honor of biggest NFL bust has to belong to JaMarcus Russell.


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    Re: Bigger bust NFL

    I just can't buy this "because he was drafted #1, makes him the bigger bust," argument.

    The obvious answer is Ryan Leaf. And it is because of Peyton Manning. The reason I say that is because Peyton Manning is a Super Bowl winning quarterback, and right now, has arguments for him for being one of the greatest quarterbacks of all-time.

    If you take Leaf over Manning, that is a bigger swing and a miss and strikeout than JaMarcus Russell.




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    Re: Bigger bust NFL

    Leaf is the bigger bust because of the hype surrounding him when he came out.

    When Russell was drafted there were many people who questioned his work ethic and ability to lead but Al Davis got obsessed with his cannon arm and took him anyway. Leaf was rated by a lot of people to have higher upside than Manning (largely due to Manning never winning the "big one") and was seen as "can't miss".

    As RING4CY just said, if you take Leaf over Manning in that draft you have a much bigger swing and miss than when someone took Russell.



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    Re: Bigger bust NFL

    The obvious answer is Ryan Leaf. And it is because of Peyton Manning. The reason I say that is because Peyton Manning is a Super Bowl winning quarterback, and right now, has arguments for him for being one of the greatest quarterbacks of all-time.

    If you take Leaf over Manning, that is a bigger swing and a miss and strikeout than JaMarcus Russell.
    I could agree. Now make the arguement that Manderich was not a bigger bust then Leif since Barry Sanders was drafted after him and he was one of the biggest busts.


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    Re: Bigger bust NFL

    Russell.

    "This guy sucks!"



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    Re: Bigger bust NFL

    Its not bust its upside deficient.


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    Re: Bigger bust NFL

    Quote Originally Posted by RING4CY View Post
    The obvious answer is Ryan Leaf. And it is because of Peyton Manning. The reason I say that is because Peyton Manning is a Super Bowl winning quarterback, and right now, has arguments for him for being one of the greatest quarterbacks of all-time.

    If you take Leaf over Manning, that is a bigger swing and a miss and strikeout than JaMarcus Russell.
    Manning went #1, Leaf #2. Manning's greatness has very little impact on Leaf.



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    Re: Bigger bust NFL

    Quote Originally Posted by CPRsavedMYlife View Post
    The prestigious honor of biggest NFL bust has to belong to JaMarcus Russell.
    Not yet. We can say Leaf busted, it's over. JR could become someone's rebuilding project.*

    * Very doubtful.


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    Re: Bigger bust NFL

    Leaf. Russel has helped introduce the world to Purple Drank which is much more important then anything Leaf has ever done.



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    Re: Bigger bust NFL

    I'm going to say Leaf, although that's partly to do with the success of Manning. If Tim Couch had went first and Leaf second then I might view it differently, but Leaf/Manning was a legitimate debate going into that draft. Russell was never a unanimous top pick as he had plenty of critics questioning his accuracy and work ethic before the draft.



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    Re: Bigger bust NFL

    Russell for shizzle



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    Re: Bigger bust NFL

    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralHouston View Post
    Manning went #1, Leaf #2. Manning's greatness has very little impact on Leaf.
    And if Leaf goes #1 to the Colts, Manning goes #2 to the Chargers, and the Manning breaks records & wins a Super Bowl with the Chargers?




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    Re: Bigger bust NFL

    Quote Originally Posted by CyJack13 View Post
    I'm going to say Leaf, although that's partly to do with the success of Manning. If Tim Couch had went first and Leaf second then I might view it differently, but Leaf/Manning was a legitimate debate going into that draft. Russell was never a unanimous top pick as he had plenty of critics questioning his accuracy and work ethic before the draft.
    Bingo...




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    Re: Bigger bust NFL

    Leaf by a long shot. Lots of people thought Russell was suspect before the draft.



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