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    Try to convince Sam McGuffie to come to ISU!(Anyone with facebook)

    A friend and I had the idea to make a group on Facebook for Sam McGuffie since he is the most talked about football prospect for ISU in recent years! Just to make sure we didn't get in recruiting trouble we didn't put a direct title such as "Sam McGuffie Come to ISU" such as what Nebraska and Michigan did for their groups. Instead it is called "Sam McGuffie+Iowa State=Big 12 Champs.
    A lot of people will say this is meaningless but I know if I was a HS Stud recruit I would probably type in my name on Facebook to see what groups are made for me! Lets go and show him how many people really want him in Ames. By the way Michigan's groups has 58 members, and Nebraska's has 79 so I figured we could get more members than them!

    If we can get people to vote thousands of times for a basically meaningless online poll. I figure the fans will care about this as well!



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    Re: Try to convince Sam McGuffie to come to ISU!(Anyone with facebook)

    Do NOT do it. See the following.

    Kentucky says fans' web postings are NCAA violationPosted 7/19/2006 9:29 PM ETE-mail | Save | Print |



    swapContent('firstHeader','applyHeader');By C. Ray Hall, The (Louisville) Courier-Journal
    In a new twist on an old story, some University of Kentucky basketball fans have crossed over the line in their zeal to pack the team's roster with blue-chip prospects.
    This time, the line is in cyberspace. But it's clear enough that Kentucky plans to report itself to the NCAA for a secondary rules violation, school spokesman Scott Stricklin said Wednesday.
    "This is a situation of the fans wanting to help and not understanding (the rules)," Stricklin said.
    Some fans posted pro-Kentucky messages on the MySpace.com website of Patrick "Beans" Patterson, a 6-foot-8, 217-pound senior at Huntington (W.Va.) High School.
    Some of the postings reportedly were sexually enticing. One featured a photo of the Kentucky dance team; another showed super fan Ashley Judd.
    Accompanying text implied that a sexual wonderland awaits a top Kentucky basketball player.
    In his MySpace profile, Patterson describes himself this way: "I keep it real and treat everybody wit respect. I ball and work out basicly every day. ... Don't trust many people cept my boyz and some gurlz. I love the females. ...
    "I live in a place Htown," said Patterson, who was West Virginia's Player of the Year last season. "I can't wait till I leave this place and go to college."
    His top college choices, according to the site: Wake Forest, Kentucky, Louisville, Georgia and Virginia Tech.
    The fan postings on the site Wednesday were far less incendiary than some appearing earlier.
    "I think some of the people went back and took some of their stuff down," said Stricklin, who noted he hadn't seen any of the entries. Kentucky's compliance office is keeping an eye on the site, he said.
    How many postings appeared to be recruiting pitches for UK?
    "It'd probably be somewhere between 20 and 25," he said.
    One Wednesday said: "I can't turn around in Lexington without hearing about Patrick Patterson anymore. Your (sic) have now entered superstar status."
    Yet another pretended to be from Rajon Rondo, who left UK for the pros this spring: "If I had the choice to either play for Louisville or not play at all, I wouldn't play at all."
    Stricklin noted that any recruiting postings even tasteful ones are inappropriate in the NCAA's view.
    "I think it's the kind of thing where if it continued unabated, a school could get in some serious jeopardy because it would be the same as a booster walking up and having continual conversations or phone contacts with a recruit," he said.
    "The NCAA is pretty strict: There's four people who are allowed to have contact with a recruit, and those are the coaches on the basketball staff."
    Although the Web postings amount to minor violations, they can't be ignored, he said.
    "The NCAA gets nervous if you're not turning in secondary violations, because that means you're not paying attention," Stricklin said.
    Why so many pro-Kentucky postings on the site?
    "The number of people who are interested in our basketball program is probably larger than a lot of college programs," Stricklin said. "And they're not casually interested. They're passionately interested."
    University of Louisville sports publicist Kenny Klein said Wednesday he was unaware of any postings by Louisville fans on Patterson's site.
    Many athletes have websites, he noted, and that can present a host of problems in the Internet age.
    "We do try to remind our student-athletes that information is out there in the public and that everyone can see (it) and just to exercise good judgment," he said.


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    Re: Try to convince Sam McGuffie to come to ISU!(Anyone with facebook)

    As the admin I can tell you right now that there will be nothing of that sort on this group. Anything like that will be deleted. And as far as I know Sam McGuffie doesn'teven have facebook. If he does I didn't invite him, and he will join on his own account. This is just showing him the support he has here, and not to show him that Ames is a sexual wonderland.



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    Re: Try to convince Sam McGuffie to come to ISU!(Anyone with facebook)

    I wouldn't risk it anyway.





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    Re: Try to convince Sam McGuffie to come to ISU!(Anyone with facebook)

    There is no risk involved. Those Kentucky violations were for those people that talked to the recruit directly. I have never spoken to the man and neither has anyone in this group. We are showing our support for him and the cyclones. If he does happen to get facebook and join the group, which is unlikely, no one in this group will talk to him about his college choice at all. This is meant to be a fun group, and to see how many people we can get to support the future of the football program.


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    Re: Try to convince Sam McGuffie to come to ISU!(Anyone with facebook)

    "The NCAA is pretty strict: There's four people who are allowed to have contact with a recruit, and those are the coaches on the basketball staff."

    No one is in contact with Sam McGuffie though. And also there are tons of groups like that on facebook such as the Nebraska and Michigan groups for Sam McGuffie! And theirs are a lot more pressuring with names "Sam McGuffie come To Nebraska"



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    Re: Try to convince Sam McGuffie to come to ISU!(Anyone with facebook)

    Just don't do it...as boosters we get a letter every year stating what we can and cannot do. In simple terms, unless you have known this person before 9th grade, you cannot make *ANY* contact with them. Don't get ISU in trouble, let coach and his guys take care of getting the talent, you take care of getting peoples butts in the stands and screaming your heart out. That is our only job as fans!

    Seriously, just let it die...


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    Re: Try to convince Sam McGuffie to come to ISU!(Anyone with facebook)

    First off, it doesn't sound like a violation at all. I also don't believe students are looped into the same category as donors are. I think one of the most important things a prospective student can do is visit or talk to fellow students to have an idea as to what the school he or she might attend is like...

    Beyond that, I don't see the purpose for the group... Thats just a personal feeling though. It also does pose the future risk that eventually something illegal may come from it. If mcguffie does join facebook, it might be illegal if a donor alumnus who has facebook is in the group.. or if they tried to send a message to mcguffie...

    Who really knows....



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    Re: Try to convince Sam McGuffie to come to ISU!(Anyone with facebook)

    No NOT who really know, it is a clear NCAA rule violation. As a student you are affiliated with the university, and thus are held by the same rules as staff or donors. Just leave it be, let the official univ info come through the coaching staff. I am 100% sure that is the way Chiz would want it too.


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    Re: Try to convince Sam McGuffie to come to ISU!(Anyone with facebook)

    We are both high school students, and when we go to college one of us next spring it will not be to Iowa State. So neither of us is affiliated, and one of us is younger then McGuffie, and I do not see any violation in one of his peers showing support for him and being a fan of a college. And to say that this is a definite NCAA violation is absurd.



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    Re: Try to convince Sam McGuffie to come to ISU!(Anyone with facebook)

    Making a facebook group that says "come to isu sam mcguffie" is the same as me saying "come to isu Sam McGuffie" on here. It's not a violation unless anybody contacts him.




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    Re: Try to convince Sam McGuffie to come to ISU!(Anyone with facebook)

    That is exactly the same way I see it, and we also didn't even directly say "Come to ISU Sam McGuffie" we said "Sam McGuffie+ISU=Big 12 Champs!"



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    Exclamation Don't mess anything up-Hold Off Putting it up, and check with the Athletic Dept

    Potentially could be a problem or maybe it won't be.

    Don't take the change. Do not put anything up until you can check with the Atheletic Department on Tuesday.

    Then if it is ok, go ahead

    Imagine how you will feel if you do and find out later it is a problem.

    Do not take a chance and mess anything up for ISU.



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    Re: Try to convince Sam McGuffie to come to ISU!(Anyone with facebook)

    When in doubt give the athletic office a call... Or mail jbp@iastate.edu and ask if it is ok. I can guarantee what the answer will be but let us know what they say.


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    Re: Try to convince Sam McGuffie to come to ISU!(Anyone with facebook)

    We are taking it down to avoid any problems!!



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