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    Interesting Read: A Big 12/Big East alliance?

    Here's a great read from Berry Tramel down at the Oklahoman.

    A Big 12/Big East alliance?

    Thoughts?

    Big 12: How about a Big East alliance? | Berry Tramel's Blog



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    Re: Interesting Read: A Big 12/Big East alliance?

    I don't know. Isn't this what Bowl games are supposed to be about? I would rather add teams from the Big east to the Big12 or vice versa.


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    Re: Interesting Read: A Big 12/Big East alliance?

    If all the conferences start doing this, what would be the purpose of bowl games? The NCAA will not approve this.


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    Re: Interesting Read: A Big 12/Big East alliance?

    If there is a scheduling alliance, doesn't that just make our non-conference schedule even tougher yet? More than likely, we continue to play Iowa. Do we really want 1 other of our nonconference games to be a home or away against a big east opponent? I don't! We need some cream puffs to warm up the season with.


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    Re: Interesting Read: A Big 12/Big East alliance?

    Just add ND and ARK and get it over with :)



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    Re: Interesting Read: A Big 12/Big East alliance?

    I don't like it. Would one of the conferences get screwed out of their BCS automatic qualifier? Good luck selling that one...



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    Re: Interesting Read: A Big 12/Big East alliance?

    So we would play the Big East Champion to potentially screw ourselves out of having two teams in the BCS?

    Big East is in danger of losing their BCS AQ status. ISU was not good enough for the Big East, remember? We don't play them. Period. It does NOTHING for us.

    All Big 12 teams will play each other. We have a champion. Big East can have a game with Mountain West and the winner gets a BCS bid.



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    Re: Interesting Read: A Big 12/Big East alliance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stormin View Post
    All Big 12 teams will play each other. We have a champion. Big East can have a game with Mountain West and the winner gets a BCS bid.
    That sounds like a better idea. It would be like a play-in game.

    In a way, plans of that sort could potentially work into a playoff system, if it was ever seriously considered.

    Major CFB conferences (and power teams) hold the keys, so the only way to move from BCS to tournament is, it would have to be lucrative for the big boys and also give non-BCS leagues a legitimate shot.

    A 16-team playoff is the minimum to make this work. But in the current D-1 situation, 11 auto bids (one from each conference) leaves only five at-large spots. Some years, at least two SEC teams that don't win the title are viable contenders. Some fairly competitive teams could be left out.

    It'd be better as 8-8:

    Auto bids (5) champions from these conferences:
    Big Ten
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    ACC
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    Pac-10

    Auto bid playoffs (3)*:
    Big East vs. Sun Belt
    MWC vs. MAC
    WAC vs. C-USA

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    Eight best teams based on measurable criteria

    *To make the auto-bid playoff fair, the matchups could be set up based on that season's relative strength — not based on the overall strength of the conference, but the teams that won their respective leagues that year.


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    Re: Interesting Read: A Big 12/Big East alliance?

    You're right Chris that was a great read....

    I think the concept has enough MERIT to keep pursuing it, in hopes that it may just become a reality.


    I really hope the two leagues would start playing more non conference games between the leagues if this champship game goes thru to reality....


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    Re: Interesting Read: A Big 12/Big East alliance?

    It won't happen. We will keep the Iowa game and that leaves us two Non-con games. UNI/FCS team and a cupcake team. 9 Big 12 games. There is no room to play a Big East team.



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    Re: Interesting Read: A Big 12/Big East alliance?

    I give it my personal approval. And I think that's what the conferences were looking for.



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    Re: Interesting Read: A Big 12/Big East alliance?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stormin View Post
    It won't happen. We will keep the Iowa game and that leaves us two Non-con games. UNI/FCS team and a cupcake team. 9 Big 12 games. There is no room to play a Big East team.
    So you go to an 8 game conference schedule. You miss one team in conference. No big deal.



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    Re: Interesting Read: A Big 12/Big East alliance?

    Quote Originally Posted by alarson View Post
    So you go to an 8 game conference schedule. You miss one team in conference. No big deal.
    I think that's an easy answer. It doesn't hurt to rotate each team out over a 9-year period one time. Except for that prestigious Telephone Trophy that no one really knows about until EA Sports tells us about it.


    Since we are an elite team now, let's go get that One Cyclone Moment.
    Make this one for the ages!




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    Re: Interesting Read: A Big 12/Big East alliance?

    Barry Trammel is literally writing a column for any idea that pops into his head.



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    Re: Interesting Read: A Big 12/Big East alliance?

    I've thought for a while that they should get rid of the conference championship games since they're often regular season rematches. Instead have each conference host a game where it's best record team gets to play a challenger for a BCS spot. You could even arrange it so that the top 2 ranked teams get to host the 3rd and 4th ranked teams to go to the national championship.



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