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    Initial Quality-Auto

    Some decent news for the domestics. Ford really stands out, Mercedes has really improved, and Toyota(non-lexus) has nose dived. This is just initial quality but it usually coordinates pretty well with long term.

    Also keep in mind that companies with small lineups can really go up and down based on new car introductions. First year models tend to have more issues.


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    Re: Initial Quality-Auto

    It did say this which totally counteracts what I said.

    The study demonstrated an unexpected trend, Sargent said.

    New or massively redesigned models typically scored well, a sign that the design and build-quality of new vehicles are improving. Historically, newly launched models have incurred substantially more quality problems than carryover models, Sargent said.



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    Re: Initial Quality-Auto

    Here is how they've trended.




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    Re: Initial Quality-Auto

    Ok either I am slow or the first graph doesn't make sense. It says problems per 100 vehicles. Land Rover has 170 problems per 100 vehicles? The best has nearly 1 problem per vehicle?



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    Re: Initial Quality-Auto

    Quote Originally Posted by akellar View Post
    Ok either I am slow or the first graph doesn't make sense. It says problems per 100 vehicles. Land Rover has 170 problems per 100 vehicles? The best has nearly 1 problem per vehicle?
    Yes, that means that Land Rovers Average 1.7 problems per vehicle in the first 90 days. The industry average is just over 1 problem. Now keep in mind that these are not always big problems. It could be something as simple as wind noise squealing breaks, etc. I think Hummer used to be pretty low because owners complained about bad mpg. WTF didn't you realize when you bought a vehicle the size of a semi the gas mileage was going to suck.

    The study covers a total of 228 total problems, and organizes them into the following eight categories:

    • Exterior
    • The Driving Experience
    • Features/Controls/Displays
    • Audio/Entertainment/Navigation
    • Seats
    • HVAC, or Climate Controls
    • Interior
    • Engine/Transmission


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    Re: Initial Quality-Auto

    Quote Originally Posted by dmclone View Post
    Yes, that means that Land Rovers Average 1.7 problems per vehicle in the first 90 days. The industry average is just over 1 problem. Now keep in mind that these are not always big problems. It could be something as simple as wind noise squealing breaks, etc. I think Hummer used to be pretty low because owners complained about bad mpg. WTF didn't you realize when you bought a vehicle the size of a semi the gas mileage was going to suck.

    The study covers a total of 228 total problems, and organizes them into the following eight categories:

    • Exterior
    • The Driving Experience
    • Features/Controls/Displays
    • Audio/Entertainment/Navigation
    • Seats
    • HVAC, or Climate Controls
    • Interior
    • Engine/Transmission
    Ok I guess I was looking at it as a major issue. I guess I would never report "wind noise" as an issue since I would think I would have noticed that in a test drive. It still seems strange to me that we should more or less expect some sort of problem in a new car within 90 days.



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