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    What are the positives and negatives for you in the new Big 12?

    I would say the obvious positive is the increase in revenue and I doubt any games will go untelevised. The negative is that I am really gonna miss playing Nebraska. The series has got really competitive over the last ten years and it will be missed. Nebraska is still Big 12 to me, it will be sorta weird.



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    Re: What are the positives and negatives for you in the new Big 12?

    A positive is that we are not homeless.


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    Re: What are the positives and negatives for you in the new Big 12?

    The money is a positive, I fully expect it will help retain coaches so we can have continued success for our programs. I also think a positive that has not been talked about are the teams that were left out of all this. ISU, KU, KSU, MU, and Baylor were all left out in to the cold by the other 5 members. I hope that these schools stick together in making decisions for the conference so that OU, Texas AM, and Texas do not get all what they want. OSU and TT I would assume would be swing voters.

    The negatives, I really don't see any negatives that really weren't already there.



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    Re: What are the positives and negatives for you in the new Big 12?

    I'm generally pleased. No real complaints. Much rather be in the situation we're in right now instead of begging to get into the Big Least or Mountain West.



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    Re: What are the positives and negatives for you in the new Big 12?

    getting rid of the arrogant azz**** from the state that is directly west of us.i hope they enjoy ohio state kicking their azz!!!!!!!!!!! texas owned them 8 of the last 9 years.that is why they wanted out of the big 12.


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    Re: What are the positives and negatives for you in the new Big 12?

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    The money
    We have a decent conferece
    The non main sports will be ok

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    Texas got what they wanted
    Tough FB
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    Re: What are the positives and negatives for you in the new Big 12?

    Positives abound over the alternative.

    ISU will really have to step up and get serous about developing strong athletic programs as the schedule will be harder than before. But this is good. With only a few exceptions, you don't find programs gaining serious talent through recruiting and building towards the top level that do not play strong schedules. Nor will you draw as much revenue. So, for ISU, its build real competitive teams or get blown out. And honestly, despite the disruption on the men's teams coaching front over the last few years, I think there is a real commitment to building a seriously competitive winning program.

    Playing top tier teams provides the opportunity to hone your talent to a sharper edge and it also makes wins count in rankings. And there are teams of top tier caliber in the Big 12 in MBB and Football. Playing them regularly will provide us either the opportunity to lose badly, or to sharpen us to an edge that we could not easily attain if we were in a MWC or similar.

    If ISU's goal is to simply field teams and have a good shot of winning, not to develop teams that are capable or competing admirably on the national stage, then we might be better off in a MWC. But if we want to see high level football and basketball, played with the best, then you need to be an a high level conference - like the Big 12.

    And we just came oh so close to having to regularly play and beat Air Force, Wyoming and Utah and try and have those victories count for much in changing our national ranking. (Yawn!)


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    Re: What are the positives and negatives for you in the new Big 12?

    I like the money but I liked the format of 12 teams where we had a decent chance at a division title and therefore a conference title. Very slim chances now, and tougher to get to a bowl game, but we have the right coaches now to give us a better chance.



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    Re: What are the positives and negatives for you in the new Big 12?

    We get to have all the teams in basketball experience Hilton Coliseum annually, which is a good thing, especially when Freddy gets the men's team rolling again. In football we get to see all the teams in Ames every other year, and won't it be nice to play some of the southern schools in late October and November at home. And oh yeah, more money.


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    Re: What are the positives and negatives for you in the new Big 12?

    #1 positive...

    Lots of road games that you can easily drive to for football.



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    Re: What are the positives and negatives for you in the new Big 12?

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    Positives abound over the alternative.

    ISU will really have to step up and get serous about developing strong athletic programs as the schedule will be harder than before. But this is good. With only a few exceptions, you don't find programs gaining serious talent through recruiting and building towards the top level that do not play strong schedules. Nor will you draw as much revenue. So, for ISU, its build real competitive teams or get blown out. And honestly, despite the disruption on the men's teams coaching front over the last few years, I think there is a real commitment to building a seriously competitive winning program.

    Playing top tier teams provides the opportunity to hone your talent to a sharper edge and it also makes wins count in rankings. And there are teams of top tier caliber in the Big 12 in MBB and Football. Playing them regularly will provide us either the opportunity to lose badly, or to sharpen us to an edge that we could not easily attain if we were in a MWC or similar.

    If ISU's goal is to simply field teams and have a good shot of winning, not to develop teams that are capable or competing admirably on the national stage, then we might be better off in a MWC. But if we want to see high level football and basketball, played with the best, then you need to be an a high level conference - like the Big 12.

    And we just came oh so close to having to regularly play and beat Air Force, Wyoming and Utah and try and have those victories count for much in changing our national ranking. (Yawn!)
    It also provides a reason for top recruits to want to play for your team.



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    Re: What are the positives and negatives for you in the new Big 12?

    There are positives, but they aren't guaranteed at this point. If everything that Bebee and Texas have promised is fulfilled, than it's an alright deal for ISU. But as long as things are still being done by putting faith in Texas' word, it should be a very tentative celebration, at best.



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    Re: What are the positives and negatives for you in the new Big 12?

    Positives:
    * Short-term relief about the uncertainty of membership in another major conference it at least buys time to prepare for the next expansion outbreak.
    * Basketball round-robin sounds more fun than the divisional setup.
    * The decision may have stemmed the immediate compulsion for other leagues to move to superconferences.

    Negatives:
    * Conference instability is still there
    * Having to make concessions to Texas (and, by extension, other South teams) to hold the league together (a volatile precedent for the long-term)


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    Re: What are the positives and negatives for you in the new Big 12?

    It buys time.

    It also keeps the football staff able to recruit in Texas.

    It buys time.



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    Re: What are the positives and negatives for you in the new Big 12?

    A positive that NO ONE is talking about:

    We know playing the South teams every single year is going to be a tough draw, but have you ever heard the term "familiarity breeds contempt"? It somewhat applies here. When you play a team every 2 years, you don't really develop that rivalry, or familiarity that's necessary to beat a team. I think to some extent, our guys would get a little intimidated against some of those schools because it was so rare that we played them. Now they play them every year. Our coaches will be more familiar with their schemes, and our players with the personnel. Rather than being in awe, they'll be ready to kick ***.

    Plus, it increases our exposure in the South. South schools will know who we are. If we can win a few against them, guess what? ISU isn't irrelevant in their eyes anymore. We're a worthy opponent. Playing at least 2 games in Texas every year is going to help recruiting too, IMO. Plus Texas kids I think are going to be more likely to go to ISU than CU or NU, who are both going to have to find some new recruiting grounds.


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