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    Utah to Pac 10? MWC to add 2 teams?

    We've noted in the past that, if the Pac-10 failed in its bid pull in five more schools from the Big 12, you should probably look for the conference to make an effort to add Utah along with Colorado and get to an even 12 teams.


    Now that the Big 12 has indeed survived, George Schroeder of the Eugene Register-Guard reports that very scenario is likely to happen. And, in very short order.


    Per a league source, Schroeder writes that the Pac-10 could make a move on Utah of the Mountain West "in a hurry". The Pac-10 would then, Schroeder reports, cease looking into further expansion, seemingly content with adding Colorado, Utah and, probably, a conference title game.


    As for the Mountain West, losing the Utes would drop them down to nine teams even after adding Boise State late last week. Would they look to get back to ten?


    They've played the last five years as a nine-team conference, but added the Broncos in the hopes of improving their shot at becoming an automatic BcS qualifier. Losing Utah would seem to negate the BSU gain, and it's appears unlikely they could add a school from another conference who could bring what Utah does to the BcS table.


    Houston and SMU -- don't laugh; June Jones has that program headed in the right direction -- of the Conference USA and Nevada and Fresno State of the WAC would seem like the next-best option at this point in time.


    Of course, this is all mere speculation as we await Pac-10 commissioner Larry Scott to, presumably, make his next move.



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    Re: Utah to Pac 10? MWC to add 2 teams?

    The Big 10 may not be done adding teams either.


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    Re: Utah to Pac 10? MWC to add 2 teams?

    There will be a conference that wont exist after all this. Just glad it wont be the big 12-10.


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    Re: Utah to Pac 10? MWC to add 2 teams?

    Add TCU and Tulsa/Memphis/Louisville/BSU to the big12 quick.


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    Re: Utah to Pac 10? MWC to add 2 teams?

    Well I'm gladd I no longer have to worry about MWC and Pac-10 expansion anymore



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    Re: Utah to Pac 10? MWC to add 2 teams?

    Quote Originally Posted by kingcy View Post
    There will be a conference that wont exist after all this. Just glad it wont be the big 12-10.
    Big 12 needs to start this by taking at least two from the Big East and maybe one from the west.



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    Re: Utah to Pac 10? MWC to add 2 teams?

    Quote Originally Posted by brianhos View Post
    Add TCU and Tulsa/Memphis/Louisville/BSU to the big12 quick.
    No to Tulsa, we already have that region. Louisville, Cincy and hopefully Pitt and maybe BSU. If the Big 12 is on a high right now adding most of these areas opens up TV sets and recruiting grounds.



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    Re: Utah to Pac 10? MWC to add 2 teams?

    Quote Originally Posted by brianhos View Post
    Add TCU and Tulsa/Memphis/Louisville/BSU to the big12 quick.
    add NOBODY unless you can get Notre Dame. They you add one more with them to get back to 12.

    Any other additions and ISU's piece of the pie (along with everyone else's) gets smaller.

    Superconferences are dead men walking.



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    Re: Utah to Pac 10? MWC to add 2 teams?

    By way of the Provo Daily Herald, Mountain West commissioner Craig Thompson was told by Utah athletic director Chris Hill that his school had not been contacted by the Pac-10.


    Additionally, Thompson told the Daily Herald that he has not spoken to Pac-10 commissioner Larry Scott since Texas and four other Big 12 schools turned down an invite Monday. Presumably, Scott would go Jim Delany on the situation and inform his MWC counterpart before making an official move on Utah.


    Of course, it still appears a matter of when, not if, the Utes receive an invitation to a conference that's an automatic BcS qualifier.



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    Re: Utah to Pac 10? MWC to add 2 teams?

    The Big 12 will NOT ADD TCU. They won't expand in the footprint, and the Big 12 schools that all recruit Texas do not want TCU to gain a foothold.



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    Re: Utah to Pac 10? MWC to add 2 teams?

    The website UteZone.com, part of the rivals.com network, reports Utah has informed the Mountain West it is leaving for the Pac-10. ESPN.com reports the Pac-10 hasn't invited Utah yet, though that could change within a day.
    According to The Associated Press, Mountain West commissioner Craig Thompson says he was told Monday by Utah AD Chris Hill that the university had not been contacted by the Pac-10.
    The Utes make sense geographically for the Pac-10, and they are strong in football, having won BCS bowl games in two of the past six seasons. Located in Salt Lake City, Utah would bring the Pac-10 the nation's 31st-largest TV market. Plus, Utah is a public institution, like nine of the 11 current Pac-10 teams.
    The same can't be said for Utah's archrival, BYU, which wasn't seriously considered in Pac-10 expansion talks, according to the Salt Lake Tribune. When the conference was still considering Big 12 schools, there reportedly was reluctance to add Baylor because of its ties to the Baptist Church. So BYU's affiliation with the Mormon Church may have hurt its cause, as well.
    Hill wouldn't say much when asked about expansion over the weekend. "Obviously, the college athletics landscape is undergoing massive changes and it has our full attention," he told the Tribune. "As we have said before, we will not respond to the rumors circulating."
    However, Hill has said in the past that Utah would be hard-pressed to turn down a Pac-10 invitation, according to the Tribune. Former BYU athletic director Rondo Fehlberg agrees. "I can't imagine Utah saying no to the Pac-10," Fehlberg told the Tribune. "It is every man for himself and Utah knows that, so does BYU. [Utah] will be gone in a heartbeat."
    Utah joining the Pac-10 would be a blow to the Mountain West. Partly to make itself a better candidate for an automatic BCS bowl berth, the MWC recently added former WAC power Boise State. Utah's departure would break up a potential three-headed monster atop the conference that also would have included TCU.



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    Re: Utah to Pac 10? MWC to add 2 teams?

    Quote Originally Posted by CrossCyed View Post
    The Big 12 will NOT ADD TCU. They won't expand in the footprint, and the Big 12 schools that all recruit Texas do not want TCU to gain a foothold.
    I don't understand this comment. TCU is IN Texas. Not wanting TCU to gain a foothold on recruiting in Texas, wouldn't that be like not wanting ISU to gain a foothold on recruiting in Iowa?



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    Re: Utah to Pac 10? MWC to add 2 teams?

    Utah is a no brainer. Point blank good athletics, good school.



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    Re: Utah to Pac 10? MWC to add 2 teams?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclone42 View Post
    I don't understand this comment. TCU is IN Texas. Not wanting TCU to gain a foothold on recruiting in Texas, wouldn't that be like not wanting ISU to gain a foothold on recruiting in Iowa?
    They basically don't want to "legitimize" TCU by inviting them to the Big 12. That and they don't really add any TV sets because they are a smaller school with a small following.

    I do hope that the Big 12 looks to add a couple of schools somewhere down the line. Who knows if they will or not. My choice would be BYU and Louisville.



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    Re: Utah to Pac 10? MWC to add 2 teams?

    Why add anyone? It has been reported that only the $EC makes money on a championship game. No need to dilute the money in the conference package any more.



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