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    The 'New' Big XII & The Benefits For ISU

    We all know the bad news: Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St, Colorado, and Nebraska are gone.

    But here is the good, lets be honest, GREAT news!

    Fact: The Big XII cannot officially disband unless 9 of the 12 member schools vote in favor of the break-up. By my count above there are only 7 'yes' votes. (Mizzou isn't going anywhere).

    Fact: If 9 votes are not obtained the Big XII will still hold an automatic qualifier spot in the BCS!

    Fact: If 9 votes are not obtained any schools who choose to leave (see 7 above) must pay a buyout of over $10 million each to the remaining schools!! (read: $10 million x 7 = $70 million / 5 = $14 million to remaining 5)!


    So to break it all down: ISU will remain in the 'new' Big 12. ISU will have an influx of $14 million. And the 'new' Big XII will still have an automatic BCS qualifying spot!!!!!!!!!

    The only real question is: who will be joining us in the 'new' Big 12? (hint: TCU, Utah, Boise St, etc.)



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    Re: The 'New' Big XII & The Benefits For ISU

    Do some reading from today... most of those facts, aren't.


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    Re: The 'New' Big XII & The Benefits For ISU

    Quote Originally Posted by AustinCyclone View Post
    We all know the bad news: Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St, Colorado, and Nebraska are gone.

    But here is the good, lets be honest, GREAT news!

    Fact: The Big XII cannot officially disband unless 9 of the 12 member schools vote in favor of the break-up. By my count above there are only 7 'yes' votes. (Mizzou isn't going anywhere).

    Fact: If 9 votes are not obtained the Big XII will still hold an automatic qualifier spot in the BCS!

    Fact: If 9 votes are not obtained any schools who choose to leave (see 7 above) must pay a buyout of over $10 million each to the remaining schools!! (read: $10 million x 7 = $70 million / 5 = $14 million to remaining 5)!


    So to break it all down: ISU will remain in the 'new' Big 12. ISU will have an influx of $14 million. And the 'new' Big XII will still have an automatic BCS qualifying spot!!!!!!!!!

    The only real question is: who will be joining us in the 'new' Big 12? (hint: TCU, Utah, Boise St, etc.)
    Might want to research that first fact, there's been some debate about that lately.



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    Re: The 'New' Big XII & The Benefits For ISU

    From NYTimes

    If the Pac-10 swiped six teams from the Big 12 and Missouri or Nebraska went to the Big Ten, the Big 12 would become defunct. Under N.C.A.A. guidelines, a conference needs at least six universities that have played together for five years. The Big 12 would lose its Bowl Championship Series bid and automatic bid to the N.C.A.A. basketball tournament. That could leave colleges like Kansas and Kansas State to be snapped up by the Big East, which could be its best bet to continue using the lure of a B.C.S. bid for football recruits.



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    Re: The 'New' Big XII & The Benefits For ISU

    Use the Find and Replace feature in MS Word;

    Find: Fact
    Replace with: Myth

    All of the schools leaving will be able to scott free. Only need a simple majority to abandon conference



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    Re: The 'New' Big XII & The Benefits For ISU

    Quote Originally Posted by 4429 mcc View Post
    From NYTimes

    If the Pac-10 swiped six teams from the Big 12 and Missouri or Nebraska went to the Big Ten, the Big 12 would become defunct. Under N.C.A.A. guidelines, a conference needs at least six universities that have played together for five years. The Big 12 would lose its Bowl Championship Series bid and automatic bid to the N.C.A.A. basketball tournament. That could leave colleges like Kansas and Kansas State to be snapped up by the Big East, which could be its best bet to continue using the lure of a B.C.S. bid for football recruits.

    If true, and I have no reason not to believe that it is not, than my bad and I ask for the mercy of the mods to close the thread before I get pillaged on here....

    I have been getting all of my info from OrangeBloods through this whole deal and they are still hung up on this (pretty much all of the discussion today). This might be the first part of the whole story they haven't been right on top of...



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    Re: The 'New' Big XII & The Benefits For ISU

    I'd be willing to bet that lawyers for ISU, KU, KSU, and whoever else, let alone congressmen, governors, regents, etc. won't let them out "scott free".

    There has got to be some sort of break fee, even if the conference technically becomes defunct. I have a hard time believing it nullifies any break fee just like that.



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    Re: The 'New' Big XII & The Benefits For ISU

    Quote Originally Posted by 4429 mcc View Post
    From NYTimes

    If the Pac-10 swiped six teams from the Big 12 and Missouri or Nebraska went to the Big Ten, the Big 12 would become defunct. Under N.C.A.A. guidelines, a conference needs at least six universities that have played together for five years. The Big 12 would lose its Bowl Championship Series bid and automatic bid to the N.C.A.A. basketball tournament. That could leave colleges like Kansas and Kansas State to be snapped up by the Big East, which could be its best bet to continue using the lure of a B.C.S. bid for football recruits.
    I was just thinking about this though. Before these teams can be released from the conference, wouldn't they have to pay the exit fee/penalty first? Then, technically, we'd have the money in hand before the conference dropped below the required 6 members.

    I know that's probably wishful thinking, and I don't know how much, if any, the departing teams would have to pay 2 years from now, but it's the only hope I have of ISU making any $$$ on this deal.



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