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    The irony of CU and NU being the first dominoes...

    So we all get the TV/football implications of mega conferences, but here's what is so ironic to me.

    CU - struggling football, struggling Athletic department, a bball team with horrible attendance and no tradition, a tv market (denver) dominated by pro sports, and the only BCS program to have scholly reductions due to APR in both football and bball. Naturally, they're "coveted" by the Pac10.

    NU - despite its storied football tradition and attendance, they have lousy recent football performance, average academics, a small population state that is a non factor for tv contracts, and the only BCS bball team to never win an ncaa tourney game. Naturally, they're the first to go to the b10.

    makes perfect sense.



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    Re: The irony of CU and NU being the first dominoes...

    Quote Originally Posted by brokenloginagain View Post
    and the only BCS bball team to never win an ncaa tourney game. Naturally, they're the first to go to the b10.

    makes perfect sense.
    It's perfect. The Big Whatever now has TWO teams who have never won an NCAA tournament game. (Northwestern has never even made the tournament)



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    Re: The irony of CU and NU being the first dominoes...

    Good post. Nebraska is a national name and will bring viewers to the BTN. I have no idea what CU brings to the PAC.


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    Re: The irony of CU and NU being the first dominoes...

    Quote Originally Posted by kingcy View Post
    Good post. Nebraska is a national name and will bring viewers to the BTN. I have no idea what CU brings to the PAC.
    denver market even though no one cares



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    Re: The irony of CU and NU being the first dominoes...

    Quote Originally Posted by brokenloginagain View Post
    So we all get the TV/football implications of mega conferences, but here's what is so ironic to me.

    CU - struggling football, struggling Athletic department, a bball team with horrible attendance and no tradition, a tv market (denver) dominated by pro sports, and the only BCS program to have scholly reductions due to APR in both football and bball. Naturally, they're "coveted" by the Pac10.

    NU - despite its storied football tradition and attendance, they have lousy recent football performance, average academics, a small population state that is a non factor for tv contracts, and the only BCS bball team to never win an ncaa tourney game. Naturally, they're the first to go to the b10.

    makes perfect sense.
    I thought of some of those things myself.

    I still think NU's overall FB tradition is still a selling point for the B-Ten.

    The thing that annoys me in all this is: when it comes to arguments for or against a specific school's invitation to Conference X or Y, the rules can change at the drop of a hat.

    "It's all about TV sets." But if that seems like only a minor plus, then it's "all about football." If recent success has waned, then it's "all about the football tradition." Basketball doesn't matter — unless it does. Or it's about geographic fit (which doesn't stop rumors about Big Ten seeking Texas). If the school isn't all that competitive in the major sports, then it's about academics.

    I realize all of those things are a factor. But they can't all be interchangeably the Most Important.


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    Re: The irony of CU and NU being the first dominoes...

    Quote Originally Posted by cyclones500 View Post
    I thought of some of those things myself.

    I still think NU's overall FB tradition is still a selling point for the B-Ten.

    The thing that annoys me in all this is: when it comes to arguments for or against a specific school's invitation to Conference X or Y, the rules can change at the drop of a hat.

    "It's all about TV sets." But if that seems like only a minor plus, then it's "all about football." If recent success has waned, then it's "all about the football tradition." Basketball doesn't matter — unless it does. Or it's about geographic fit (which doesn't stop rumors about Big Ten seeking Texas). If the school isn't all that competitive in the major sports, then it's about academics.

    I realize all of those things are a factor. But they can't all be interchangeably the Most Important.
    Chuck Grassley's right it's time to remove the tax credits that have fueled this arms race for "non profit" athletics. **** poor use of resources.



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    Re: The irony of CU and NU being the first dominoes...

    Quote Originally Posted by brokenloginagain View Post
    So we all get the TV/football implications of mega conferences, but here's what is so ironic to me.

    CU - struggling football, struggling Athletic department, a bball team with horrible attendance and no tradition, a tv market (denver) dominated by pro sports, and the only BCS program to have scholly reductions due to APR in both football and bball. Naturally, they're "coveted" by the Pac10.

    NU - despite its storied football tradition and attendance, they have lousy recent football performance, average academics, a small population state that is a non factor for tv contracts, and the only BCS bball team to never win an ncaa tourney game. Naturally, they're the first to go to the b10.

    makes perfect sense.
    But wait.. Some blowhard sports authority on 590 Am in Omaha this morning went off about the academics. He said that ISU and KSU were academic podunks that couldnt compete and that Iowa was tied for the lowest ranked institution in the Big Ten at 29th overall.. and that will markedly help improve NU's status. Damn this ticks me off on so many levels. ISU, KSU, KU, Baylor, and yes, even Mizzou are left now hunkering in the basement as the tornado or realignment clears things out. I only hope that somehow there is something left standing when the storm passes. (yes, it is ironic for a Cyclone to hunker down from a tornado, but the metaphor works in my mind...) The NCAA is a joke when they talk about what is good for the student athlete.. it is ALL about money. and All about politics, student athlete and education be damned..



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    Re: The irony of CU and NU being the first dominoes...

    Quote Originally Posted by kingcy View Post
    Good post. Nebraska is a national name and will bring viewers to the BTN. I have no idea what CU brings to the PAC.
    CU's culture* is an excellent fit.

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    Re: The irony of CU and NU being the first dominoes...

    CU is a bandwagon team. There isn't a lot of loyalty. However, if they can turn the corner and have a good football team, the Denverites will suddently join the bandwagon.


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    Re: The irony of CU and NU being the first dominoes...

    Quote Originally Posted by alaskaguy View Post
    CU is a bandwagon team. There isn't a lot of loyalty. However, if they can turn the corner and have a good football team, the Denverites will suddently join the bandwagon.
    kinda like IOWA fans... hahahahahaha



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    Re: The irony of CU and NU being the first dominoes...

    Colorado has fancied itself as California for years. This seems to be a perfect fit.



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    Re: The irony of CU and NU being the first dominoes...

    Quote Originally Posted by Broodwich View Post
    Colorado has fancied itself as California for years. This seems to be a perfect fit.
    In terms of politics... good call. They belong on the left coast.



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    Re: The irony of CU and NU being the first dominoes...

    Quote Originally Posted by temperflare View Post
    In terms of politics... good call. They belong on the left coast.
    In terms of everything. I was raised in Colorado. Boulder specifically.

    It is much, much different now than when I lived there, and I would be confident in saying that most of the people "culturally" have more in common with California than Texas, or Iowa for that matter.

    Now instead of denigrating themselves by associating with bib-overall wearing farmhands, they've found kindred spirits who understand that saving the planet starts with a Luxury Hybrid SUV. They've finally found a home with people that appreciate the subtle differences between the powder at Whistler over A-Basin, bro.

    I can already see the eco-sustainable tobiko rolls being served in that stinky nasty old field house attached to the west side of Folsom.



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    Re: The irony of CU and NU being the first dominoes...

    I think in the long run both schools will regret the move. If we look at football, the only program in the Pac-10 that CU has an advantage over currently is Wazzou. Nebraska moves to a conference that you could argue has 5-6 superior programs as opposed to almost always being a contender for the Big-12 north title. Perhaps the extra $$ will make a difference but I doubt it.



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    Re: The irony of CU and NU being the first dominoes...

    Quote Originally Posted by kingcy View Post
    Good post. Nebraska is a national name and will bring viewers to the BTN. I have no idea what CU brings to the PAC.
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