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    Pray that Mizzou gets into the Big10 or SEC

    This is getting worse by the minute for us. I was thinking about this last night. If the Big10 doesnt accept Mizzou and the Big12 blows apart with the South 5 + Colorado goes to the Pac10 that leaves BU, KSU, KU, ISU, MU. Our obvious landing spot after that is the MWC, but the problem becomes the 9 team MWC may only add 3 teams and go to 12 just to get to a championship game. We have a serious problem if the MWC decides to add KSU, KU, and MU. KSU and KU are tied at the hip and KU basketball alone will get them in. That leaves it between ISU and MU and I have a hard time believing the MWC is going to choose the DSM market over STL/K.C.

    God help us if Mizzou gets left at the altar. I was once agianst public groveling, but Pollard and Geoffery need to start.



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    Re: Pray that Mizzou gets into the Big10 or SEC

    KU and KSU are not tied. Having said that, I still think they will try to stay together. I think the MWC goes big and adds Boise and another team too. That still doesn't make us a lock because of CU and Baylor in the mix but I would argue we bring more to the table than either of those teams and honestly despite recent basketball success we bring more than KSU.


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    Re: Pray that Mizzou gets into the Big10 or SEC

    Actually, Mizzou being left behind helps us immensely (potentially).


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    Re: Pray that Mizzou gets into the Big10 or SEC

    Quote Originally Posted by Incyte View Post
    Actually, Mizzou being left behind helps us immensely (potentially).
    Please expand on this, because i dont see it.



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    Re: Pray that Mizzou gets into the Big10 or SEC

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneNC2015 View Post
    This is getting worse by the minute for us. I was thinking about this last night. If the Big10 doesnt accept Mizzou and the Big12 blows apart with the South 5 + Colorado goes to the Pac10 that leaves BU, KSU, KU, ISU, MU. Our obvious landing spot after that is the MWC, but the problem becomes the 9 team MWC may only add 3 teams and go to 12 just to get to a championship game. We have a serious problem if the MWC decides to add KSU, KU, and MU. KSU and KU are tied at the hip and KU basketball alone will get them in. That leaves it between ISU and MU and I have a hard time believing the MWC is going to choose the DSM market over STL/K.C.

    God help us if Mizzou gets left at the altar. I was once agianst public groveling, but Pollard and Geoffery need to start.
    Mizz to the B10 is a huge blow to ISU academically.


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    Re: Pray that Mizzou gets into the Big10 or SEC

    MWC would go to 16 in that case, and add BSU, ISU, KU, KSU, Mizzou, Baylor and maybe Tulsa to get the OK TV sets.


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    Re: Pray that Mizzou gets into the Big10 or SEC

    Quote Originally Posted by yaman3 View Post
    KU and KSU are not tied.
    What makes you say that? Last I read, it is actually a state law in Kansas they have to stay in the same conference.



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    Re: Pray that Mizzou gets into the Big10 or SEC

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneNC2015 View Post
    Please expand on this, because i dont see it.
    It's more likely that the B12 "merge" with a new conference such as Big East leftoevers or the MWC. It's more likely that 5 teams would be a package deal rather than 4.


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    Re: Pray that Mizzou gets into the Big10 or SEC

    Quote Originally Posted by ruxCYtable View Post
    What makes you say that? Last I read, it is actually a state law in Kansas they have to stay in the same conference.
    That's an urban legend. No such law exists.



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    Re: Pray that Mizzou gets into the Big10 or SEC

    Wow. I disagree entirely.

    If there are 5 big 12 teams left we retain the big 12 name and contracts and invite the teams of our choice. We already have national TV contracts and an automatic BCS qualification. Mizzou staying leaves us the St. Louis market for any future TV negotiations as well as 1 more school to stick around. Granted I don't know for sure that there are stipulations in those contracts for if the membership changes. Even if they do the Big 12 could invite the top of the MWC without getting stuck with the undesierables like Wyoming.


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    Re: Pray that Mizzou gets into the Big10 or SEC

    Quote Originally Posted by Incyte View Post
    It's more likely that the B12 "merge" with a new conference such as Big East leftoevers or the MWC. It's more likely that 5 teams would be a package deal rather than 4.
    I think its safe to say all the Big East will be swallowed by the Big10, SEC, ACC. I dont foresee any leftovers. I guess we better hope the MWC is prepared to go to 16. Personally i dont know that they are, also I really dont want to see Baylor included. They really dont deserve to be in a major conference.



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    Re: Pray that Mizzou gets into the Big10 or SEC

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneNC2015 View Post
    I think its safe to say all the Big East will be swallowed by the Big10, SEC, ACC. I dont foresee any leftovers. I guess we better hope the MWC is prepared to go to 16. Personally i dont know that they are, also I really dont want to see Baylor included. They really dont deserve to be in a major conference.
    I don't think the SEC expands at all. I see 4 Big-East teams being available.


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    Re: Pray that Mizzou gets into the Big10 or SEC

    There's just not enough info right now to know if it's a positive or negative in regards to Mizzou getting left. Everyone acts like there is just one potential outcome that is already locked in stone.

    This whole thing is one big pecking order, with the B10/ND determining how the first step goes.

    Then the Pac 10/UT (and friends) are up next. Colorado could come into play here also.

    Then after some of the dust settles the SEC will make a move. This could be a potential home for Mizzou if they are left out. Missouri borders AR, TN and KY.

    Then the ACC gets their chance to raid the Big East depending on how many teams are pulled to the B10/SEC.

    Then the Big East will probably be looking for teams. Hopefully we along with the other misfits from the B12 can go with them. If that doesn't work, the MWC will be the next stop.



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    Re: Pray that Mizzou gets into the Big10 or SEC

    Quote Originally Posted by vmbplayer View Post
    Wow. I disagree entirely.

    If there are 5 big 12 teams left we retain the big 12 name and contracts and invite the teams of our choice. We already have national TV contracts and an automatic BCS qualification. Mizzou staying leaves us the St. Louis market for any future TV negotiations as well as 1 more school to stick around. Granted I don't know for sure that there are stipulations in those contracts for if the membership changes. Even if they do the Big 12 could invite the top of the MWC without getting stuck with the undesierables like Wyoming.
    You are correct. IMO, having Mizzou left out of the Big Ten is a good thing. The remainder of us left get to split a big pot of money from those leaving. Plus with rights to contracts, names and BCS qualification, we would be in position to actually do something. Have full revenue sharing. Move the league offices back to Kansas City.

    A core of teams like Kansas, K-State, Mizzou, and ISU would be a good start.



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    Re: Pray that Mizzou gets into the Big10 or SEC

    Quote Originally Posted by Incyte View Post
    I don't think the SEC expands at all. I see 4 Big-East teams being available.
    You honestly think the SEC is going to sit and watch all this happen without doing something? Give some of what your smokin, the SEC is much like TU. They wont sit back and be outdone, especially by some yankees.



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