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    Would our situation be different...

    if not for a couple of ill-timed misses by Shaggy for two straight years? I've never been one to put any blame on him, and I never will... just wondering if our situation today would be better if we'd won the north those years.



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    Re: Would our situation be different...

    No different.

    If the Iowa regents weren't a bunch of d-bags in the 1980s trying to kill ISU, and as a result of that had ISU been able to at least somewhat keep pace in the facility arms race, and as a result we didn't have 20 years of absolute dismal athletics, perhaps we're talking. Our chances were screwed long before Shaggy earned his nickname. Keep in mind - K-State made BCS back in 2003, and they're just as screwed as we are.


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    Re: Would our situation be different...

    Nope. Not unless you think it brings us several national championships, however many conference crowns, another 35K fans per game and a x2 budget.

    It'd also help if we were in a completely different market - but that doesn't seem to be helping Missouri either.



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    Re: Would our situation be different...

    It has very little to do with athletic success.



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    Re: Would our situation be different...

    I'm not necessarily talking about the Big 10 or anything. I mean even in just making us more attractive to the MWC or the Big East or whoever might be around to pick up our garbage.



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    Re: Would our situation be different...

    Quote Originally Posted by Hollinger View Post
    I'm not necessarily talking about the Big 10 or anything. I mean even in just making us more attractive to the MWC or the Big East or whoever might be around to pick up our garbage.
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    No different.

    If the Iowa regents weren't a bunch of d-bags in the 1980s trying to kill ISU, and as a result of that had ISU been able to at least somewhat keep pace in the facility arms race, and as a result we didn't have 20 years of absolute dismal athletics, perhaps we're talking. Our chances were screwed long before Shaggy earned his nickname. Keep in mind - K-State made BCS back in 2003, and they're just as screwed as we are.
    Wash. Rinse. Dry. Repeat.


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    Re: Would our situation be different...

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    It has very little to do with athletic success.
    Please tell us what it has to do with. Please tell us, please. I'm waiting to be underwhelmed. Go ahead and tell us all what it has to do with.


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    Re: Would our situation be different...

    I don't know... anymore it seems like a what have you done for me lately mentality. Teams that have had awful stretches within the last 20 years are suddenly power players because of current success.



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    Re: Would our situation be different...

    Quote Originally Posted by jdoggivjc View Post
    No different.

    If the Iowa regents weren't a bunch of d-bags in the 1980s trying to kill ISU, and as a result of that had ISU been able to at least somewhat keep pace in the facility arms race, and as a result we didn't have 20 years of absolute dismal athletics, perhaps we're talking. Our chances were screwed long before Shaggy earned his nickname. Keep in mind - K-State made BCS back in 2003, and they're just as screwed as we are.
    Amen.


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    Re: Would our situation be different...

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    Re: Would our situation be different...

    The Mountain West isn't concerned with tv markets. They're concerned with athletic prestige and getting a BCS bid. The people on their boards are giving Mizzou and Kansas football more credit than either have earned, seemingly because of short term success in the north. If things had swung ISU's way those two years, maybe we wouldn't be getting left out of their ideas to pillage our remains.



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    Re: Would our situation be different...

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    In the end it has everthing to do with athletic success. Do the math on the state of TV's in the state of Nebraska and then ask yourself why they are even being considered for the Big 10.


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    Re: Would our situation be different...

    Quote Originally Posted by Hollinger View Post
    The Mountain West isn't concerned with tv markets. They're concerned with athletic prestige and getting a BCS bid. The people on their boards are giving Mizzou and Kansas football more credit than either have earned, seemingly because of short term success in the north. If things had swung ISU's way those two years, maybe we wouldn't be getting left out of their ideas to pillage our remains.

    You know that the people on their boards aren't the ones making decisions, right?


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    Re: Would our situation be different...

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue52 View Post
    It has very little to do with athletic success.
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    Re: Would our situation be different...

    And I'm not saying they are. My point is that the more people in the general public that see ISU as a legitimate addition to one of the mid-major conferences, the better situation we end up in.



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