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    Expansion post-mortem

    I realize it's not over, long way to go.

    But I'd really like to know in the end what happened? What was true and what wasn't. Granted, we'll never know. But so much stuff has been here today - gone tomorrow (Mizzou Big 10). Flat out wrong (where to begin), or conflicting (ND will join if stops at 12, vs joins 16 team Big 10).

    Who knew and who was just making crap up? Clearly Chip what's his name and the UT site comes out winners here - not surprising since UT was manipulating this whole sham from the beginning.



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    Re: Expansion post-mortem

    I think Dan Bebe and Chip Brown will co-author a tell all book.


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    Re: Expansion post-mortem

    I assume you mean a post mortem in terms of how expansion was, is being covered by the press? I'm no journalism major, but I cannot believe the blatant regression in journalistic integrity that has occurred over the past 12 months, most of which seems to be originating from the sector of Sports.

    I believe that part of the problem is that most of the people (writers) affiliated with all of the team sites (Scout, Rivals, Message Boards) have little recourse for checking facts, or sources. They carry a lot of clout because they have a huge following on the boards, and 'real' journalist feel pressured into giving them credence. In most cases, these people cannot separate their passion for a program from fact, or fiction.

    The BS that has been coming out of Chip Brown, Lincoln, and Omaha has been beyond monumentally reckless. I will say that I was impressed by Steven Sipple last night on KXNO. He openly admitted that this reporting 'has gotten way out of hand'. I think even he realized his passion for Nebraska, and pressure to be first, had clouded his judgement over these past weeks.

    From a central Iowa perspective, I know there are threads talking about Jon, Chris, Matt Perrault, and local media. I don't know what the correct answer is. I actually feel like the local media were the only ones being responsible in this reporting. I think KXNO and Perrault in particular, benefit from expansion, with Nebraska into the Big 10 market in particular. I think that they have for the most part been reckless, and have had tunnel vision concerning a story that is obviously huge, but partially due to the media's own reckless behavior.

    If that is not what you meant DM, I'm sorry to derail your topic. I just wonder if we will ever really know the true stories.


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    Re: Expansion post-mortem

    Kinda, yes.

    What factually happened, then how the various entities came up with their material.

    I heard that from Sipple, got to give him credit for that position.



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    Re: Expansion post-mortem

    Supposedly, OK and UT are talking right now. OK is trying to save the conference apparently. Just what I heard, no link.


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    Re: Expansion post-mortem

    Quote Originally Posted by yaman3 View Post
    Supposedly, OK and UT are talking right now. OK is trying to save the conference apparently. Just what I heard, no link.
    Same question from last night regarding UT and A&M..... which conference?

    Wait, what happened to UT and A&M meeting today to save the conference?

    Is anybody trying to save the conference, except us wretched souls?



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    Re: Expansion post-mortem

    I tracked down Dan Beebe.



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    Re: Expansion post-mortem

    Take everything you've heard. The truth is somewhere in the middle.



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    Re: Expansion post-mortem

    Quote Originally Posted by DaddyMac View Post
    Same question from last night regarding UT and A&M..... which conference?

    Wait, what happened to UT and A&M meeting today to save the conference?

    Is anybody trying to save the conference, except us wretched souls?
    It is offensive that they would even suggest they are trying to "save the conference" when they are only talking to 1 or 2 of their closest buddies and leaving the rest of us poor bastards in the dark.



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    Re: Expansion post-mortem

    Quote Originally Posted by DaddyMac View Post

    Wait, what happened to UT and A&M meeting today to save the conference?
    Yeah, and why would a meeting to "save the conference" just include two schools?



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    Re: Expansion post-mortem

    Quote Originally Posted by DaddyMac View Post
    I realize it's not over, long way to go.

    But I'd really like to know in the end what happened? What was true and what wasn't. Granted, we'll never know. But so much stuff has been here today - gone tomorrow (Mizzou Big 10). Flat out wrong (where to begin), or conflicting (ND will join if stops at 12, vs joins 16 team Big 10).

    Who knew and who was just making crap up? Clearly Chip what's his name and the UT site comes out winners here - not surprising since UT was manipulating this whole sham from the beginning.
    Not quite. If in the event that Texas DOES decide to hold the Big 12 conference together, this guy would have COMPLETELY jumped the shark, as he would have announced that he KNEW that 6 teams were going to the Pac 10 and the Big 12 conference was dead. ESPN used his site as a primary source for their "breaking news". If it turns out he was flat out speaking from his arse on this, or even if it was Texas playing him like a fiddle trying to get Nebraska to stay with no real intentions of ever joining the Pac 10, he will have effectively destroyed any credibility that orangebloods.com has and will never be seen as a trustworthy source of information ever again.


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    Re: Expansion post-mortem

    Quote Originally Posted by Tornado man View Post
    Yeah, and why would a meeting to "save the conference" just include two schools?
    Why would a discussion about move to the Pac 10 not include AT LEAST Texas Tech, if not also Oklahoma and Oklahoma St?


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    Re: Expansion post-mortem

    Quote Originally Posted by jdoggivjc View Post
    Not quite. If in the event that Texas DOES decide to hold the Big 12 conference together, this guy would have COMPLETELY jumped the shark, as he would have announced that he KNEW that 6 teams were going to the Pac 10 and the Big 12 conference was dead. ESPN used his site as a primary source for their "breaking news". If it turns out he was flat out speaking from his arse on this, or even if it was Texas playing him like a fiddle trying to get Nebraska to stay with no real intentions of ever joining the Pac 10, he will have effectively destroyed any credibility that orangebloods.com has and will never be seen as a trustworthy source of information ever again.
    Good point.



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    Re: Expansion post-mortem

    Quote Originally Posted by jdoggivjc View Post
    Why would a discussion about move to the Pac 10 not include AT LEAST Texas Tech, if not also Oklahoma and Oklahoma St?
    I'll take "bull **** CYA moves" for $1000 Alex.



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    Re: Expansion post-mortem

    Quote Originally Posted by jdoggivjc View Post
    Not quite. If in the event that Texas DOES decide to hold the Big 12 conference together, this guy would have COMPLETELY jumped the shark, as he would have announced that he KNEW that 6 teams were going to the Pac 10 and the Big 12 conference was dead. ESPN used his site as a primary source for their "breaking news". If it turns out he was flat out speaking from his arse on this, or even if it was Texas playing him like a fiddle trying to get Nebraska to stay with no real intentions of ever joining the Pac 10, he will have effectively destroyed any credibility that orangebloods.com has and will never be seen as a trustworthy source of information ever again.
    That pretty much shoots ESPN's credibility then too, not that they had much to begin with when it comes to journalistic integrity.



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