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    Realignment and the fate of State hoops

    We've hashed, rehashed and mashed the outcome for football and the university in general. I did a quick check and couldn't find any threads on basketball. I think that of all our sports, men's basketball would have the best shot at staying relavent. We'd likely compete in a lesser conference, but "mid majors" can be powerful. Just ask Butler. However, I don't think we'd be a "mid major." If we're in a conference with KU, I think we would pioneer a new catagory of ______ major. Thoughts on the survival of State hoops?


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    Re: Realignment and the fate of State hoops

    Quote Originally Posted by LutherClone View Post
    We've hashed, rehashed and mashed the outcome for football and the university in general. I did a quick check and couldn't find any threads on basketball. I think that of all our sports, men's basketball would have the best shot at staying relavent. We'd likely compete in a lesser conference, but "mid majors" can be powerful. Just ask Butler. However, I don't think we'd be a "mid major." If we're in a conference with KU, I think we would pioneer a new catagory of ______ major. Thoughts on the survival of State hoops?
    mid major.


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    Re: Realignment and the fate of State hoops

    Agree - we'll be a mid-major basketball school. Both men's and women's.



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    Re: Realignment and the fate of State hoops

    KU in a mid major conference wouldn't be that different than Memphis in Conference USA. Memphis' presence certainly doesn't make Conference USA a non mid major



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    Re: Realignment and the fate of State hoops

    Quote Originally Posted by gogagig View Post
    KU in a mid major conference wouldn't be that different than Memphis in Conference USA. Memphis' presence certainly doesn't make Conference USA a non mid major
    good point, didn't think about that.


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    Re: Realignment and the fate of State hoops

    Quote Originally Posted by gogagig View Post
    KU in a mid major conference wouldn't be that different than Memphis in Conference USA. Memphis' presence certainly doesn't make Conference USA a non mid major
    now that calipari is gone memphis will soon be seen as a midmajor again.


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    Re: Realignment and the fate of State hoops

    As long as KU is in the conference ISU will be fine. I don't buy the Memphis comparison. Just because Coach Cal cheated there for a few years doesn't make them a basketball power. KU is a top 5 program all time.



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    Re: Realignment and the fate of State hoops

    That's what I love about college basketball. Does it really matter whether you are in the Big Ten, Atlantic Ten, Missouri Valley, West Coast Conference, etc.? Everybody has a shot to win it all. Go Cyclones!!!



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    Re: Realignment and the fate of State hoops

    If there's a major shakedown and we're left scrambling, I'd like to see a conference made up of some other left overs.

    ISU/KU/KSU from the B12, and then why not Memphis, Cincy, possibly Louisville and then some schools like Houston, TCU, potentially Baylor or Colorado, and if you need fillers, and you can always go after Tulsa, SMU, Northern Ill, Toledo and other schools from CUSA and/or the MAC.

    Farfetched, maybe, but that's still a very good basketball conference and a respectable, though average football conference.


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    Re: Realignment and the fate of State hoops

    Quote Originally Posted by everyyard View Post
    now that calipari is gone memphis will soon be seen as a midmajor again.
    not with the way pastner recruits.

    memphis, gonzaga, butler, xavier all have great programs/fan support/wins. we could do that too. heck, our schedule may actually improve non-conference since all the big guys in the b12 take our slot for maui, pre season nit, etc.



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    Re: Realignment and the fate of State hoops

    Quote Originally Posted by CylentButDeadly View Post
    If there's a major shakedown and we're left scrambling, I'd like to see a conference made up of some other left overs.

    ISU/KU/KSU from the B12, and then why not Memphis, Cincy, possibly Louisville and then some schools like Houston, TCU, potentially Baylor or Colorado, and if you need fillers, and you can always go after Tulsa, SMU, Northern Ill, Toledo and other schools from CUSA and/or the MAC.

    Farfetched, maybe, but that's still a very good basketball conference and a respectable, though average football conference.
    I like this way of thinking, I'd also like to see us poach Marquette and DePaul if the big east is dismantled



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    Re: Realignment and the fate of State hoops

    Quote Originally Posted by PGreen ISU '92 View Post
    That's what I love about college basketball. Does it really matter whether you are in the Big Ten, Atlantic Ten, Missouri Valley, West Coast Conference, etc.? Everybody has a shot to win it all. Go Cyclones!!!
    It matters.



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    Re: Realignment and the fate of State hoops

    If the remaining Big12 adds the select MWC teams discussed, then it won't be a mid-major. Granted, it won't be as strong as the Pac10, ACC, or Big East, but it could be on par with conferences like the SEC. Kansas, Kansas State, New Mexico, Utah, Baylor, and ISU when Hoiberg fixes our program will make for a pretty decent conference. The only issue is that it may be a little more top heavy than the Big12 that we're used to. That makes for an easier conference season, but it will still get the respect from the NCAA when it matters.



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    Re: Realignment and the fate of State hoops

    Quote Originally Posted by heitclone View Post
    I like this way of thinking, I'd also like to see us poach Marquette and DePaul if the big east is dismantled
    Totally agree. Find a way to make a conference at least respectable in football, and then load up on basketball schools just the way the Big East has.


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    Re: Realignment and the fate of State hoops

    Quote Originally Posted by everyyard View Post
    now that calipari is gone memphis will soon be seen as a midmajor again.
    I suggest you look at their recruiting classes before saying that..



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