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    Ubben: PAC 10 gives Big 12 leverage

    I like this take by ESPN's David Ubben.

    Pac-10 invites mean leverage, not betrayal - Big 12 Blog - ESPN

    Essentially, he thinks that there is a "higher chance of the PAC 10 inviting six team than the Big Ten inviting Nebraska and Missouri."

    Unless Nebraska knows something that the media isn't aware of, they are kind of in a tough spot right now.



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    Re: Ubben: PAC 10 gives Big 12 leverage

    It'd be kind of funny if this all fell out and the Big 12 survived and Nebraska ended up in the MWC... I can dream, right? Iowa State a BCS school and Nebraska and Tom Osborne suing to get a shot at a title down the road...

    That might even be worth taking in TCU - the largest non-BCS money maker - and letting Nebby go.


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    Re: Ubben: PAC 10 gives Big 12 leverage

    So what if there is not a Conference to come back too. School left out of this can always start their own conference. I am sure that is the last thing on Neb's mind. Add to that the Big 10 isnt going to sit back and not get teams invited.


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    Re: Ubben: PAC 10 gives Big 12 leverage

    We could become an independent like Notre Damne, Army, Navy, etc... But I highly doubt that with no TV contract.

    We could join the MWC but according to their message boards, they are pretty sure that they don't want ISU, and seem to think we are destined for the CUSA.

    Depressing.



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    Re: Ubben: PAC 10 gives Big 12 leverage

    Hope Pollard has a plan, Beebe has ended the Big 12



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    Re: Ubben: PAC 10 gives Big 12 leverage

    Quote Originally Posted by isuforlife View Post
    Hope Pollard has a plan, Beebe has ended the Big 12
    Good thing you have been wrong on every single one of your predictions in this site's history!



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    Re: Ubben: PAC 10 gives Big 12 leverage

    I think this David Ubben article gives too much credit to Dan Beebe as being a type of guy who would pull a power play. Contrast it to this Dan Wetzel protrayal of Dan Beebe: Big 12 blew it by eschewing playoff - College Football - Rivals.com

    I think this Dan Wetzel article is one of the most interesting reads out there as of right now.



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    Re: Ubben: PAC 10 gives Big 12 leverage

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisMWilliams View Post
    I like this take by ESPN's David Ubben.

    Pac-10 invites mean leverage, not betrayal - Big 12 Blog - ESPN

    Essentially, he thinks that there is a "higher chance of the PAC 10 inviting six team than the Big Ten inviting Nebraska and Missouri."

    Unless Nebraska knows something that the media isn't aware of, they are kind of in a tough spot right now.
    I am still waiting to see an interview with BCS committee chairs and also bowl sponsors from the Big 10, Big 12 and PAC 10. Bowl revenue and BCS revenue is still a significant amount of income to the conference and the schools involved in those games, so why dilute that money in a 16-team conference where only two teams out of Texas, OU, USC would make a BCS game? Or are people assuming that these conferences would form after the deal with the BCS is over and a new post-season process is determined?



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    Re: Ubben: PAC 10 gives Big 12 leverage

    Quote Originally Posted by PGreen ISU '92 View Post
    I think this David Ubben article gives too much credit to Dan Beebe as being a type of guy who would pull a power play. Contrast it to this Dan Wetzel protrayal of Dan Beebe: Big 12 blew it by eschewing playoff - College Football - Rivals.com

    I think this Dan Wetzel article is one of the most interesting reads out there as of right now.
    Yeah Dan Wetzel nails it...if the Big XII does survive I dont know how Dan Beebe doesnt get **** canned.



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    Re: Ubben: PAC 10 gives Big 12 leverage

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    Yeah Dan Wetzel nails it...if the Big XII does survive I dont know how Dan Beebe doesnt get **** canned.
    Probably because Texas is a big fan of Beebe.


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    Re: Ubben: PAC 10 gives Big 12 leverage

    Quote Originally Posted by 3GenClone View Post
    I am still waiting to see an interview with BCS committee chairs and also bowl sponsors from the Big 10, Big 12 and PAC 10. Bowl revenue and BCS revenue is still a significant amount of income to the conference and the schools involved in those games, so why dilute that money in a 16-team conference where only two teams out of Texas, OU, USC would make a BCS game? Or are people assuming that these conferences would form after the deal with the BCS is over and a new post-season process is determined?
    Exactly. The BCS bowls are big money. If you really think they are going to go for a playoff, I don't see it.

    $142.5 million for the 5 BCS bowls. And about 80% goes to the big six conferences.

    If you think the TV watcher is going to watch another rematch of a conference championship game played a few weeks earlier, I think you are wrong. Who really wants to watch some 9-3 or 8-4 teams in a BCS bowl?



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    Re: Ubben: PAC 10 gives Big 12 leverage

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisMWilliams View Post
    I like this take by ESPN's David Ubben.

    Pac-10 invites mean leverage, not betrayal - Big 12 Blog - ESPN

    Essentially, he thinks that there is a "higher chance of the PAC 10 inviting six team than the Big Ten inviting Nebraska and Missouri."

    Unless Nebraska knows something that the media isn't aware of, they are kind of in a tough spot right now.
    I enjoy reading David Ubben's blog on ESPN, but I lost a lot of respect for him when I heard him interviewed on an Omaha radio station Friday. His love for Dan Beebe was almost comical. It was almost like he was making a paid political statement for him. I also realized he has zero inside information on anything. Everything he says is pure speculation.

    I also find it funny that this is leverage for Texas and the others, yet the Big 10s interest in Nebraska and Mizzou isn't leverage, it's putting them in potential danger. If the Big 10 didn't have genuine interest in those two or more schools, Texas and Co wouldn't be reacting the way they are. Why the ultimatum to Nebraska and Mizzou, and not one to Texas, OU, etc...? This ultimatum is nothing but grandstanding.



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    Re: Ubben: PAC 10 gives Big 12 leverage

    Quote Originally Posted by MrReality View Post
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    I also find it funny that this is leverage for Texas and the others, yet the Big 10s interest in Nebraska and Mizzou isn't leverage, it's putting them in potential danger. If the Big 10 didn't have genuine interest in those two or more schools, Texas and Co wouldn't be reacting the way they are. Why the ultimatum to Nebraska and Mizzou, and not one to Texas, OU, etc...? This ultimatum is nothing but grandstanding.

    Nebraska has no leverage. They are being leveraged against Notre Dame....



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    Re: Ubben: PAC 10 gives Big 12 leverage

    Quote Originally Posted by jdoggivjc View Post
    Probably because Texas is a big fan of Beebe.
    Even so according to the article Texas could stand to lose aton of money because Bebee's trust in Delany and not doing his own homework on what a college playoff system could payout to his conference.



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    Re: Ubben: PAC 10 gives Big 12 leverage

    Quote Originally Posted by MrReality View Post
    I also find it funny that this is leverage for Texas and the others, yet the Big 10s interest in Nebraska and Mizzou isn't leverage, it's putting them in potential danger. If the Big 10 didn't have genuine interest in those two or more schools, Texas and Co wouldn't be reacting the way they are.
    They are reacting the way they are because they feel that NU is key to the future of the Big 12. Rumors today indicate that ND is who the Big Ten is after, and nothing will happen with other teams until ND makes a decision. NU/MU are not the Big Ten's top choice.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrReality View Post
    Why the ultimatum to Nebraska and Mizzou, and not one to Texas, OU, etc...?
    Because NU and MU were the two schools that would not commit to going forward with the conference long term plans at the Big 12 at the meeting last week. You don't need to give ultimatums to schools who are "in".


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