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    Did the Big 12...

    ...release their revenue numbers at the meetings?

    The SEC did at theirs:

    2theadvocate.com | Sports | SEC announces record payday — Baton Rouge, LA

    "The SEC will distribute about $209 million to its 12 league members, with each school receiving an average of $17.3 million.

    Broken down by categories, and rounded off, here are the revenue sources:

    Source - Millions
    Football TV - $109.5
    Bowls - $26.5
    SEC football title game - $14.5
    Basketball TV - $30.0
    SEC menís basketball tourney - $5.0
    NCAA championships - $23.5"

    You cannot deny the supreme importance of FB with a small secondary importance of MBB...everything else is folly.



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    Re: Did the Big 12...

    Yes. $139 million in league generated revenue, up $9 million from last year.

    Big 12 hush-hush on realignment | The Columbia Daily Tribune - Columbia, Missouri

    Would be interesting to know what the new FOX/FSN offer to the Big 12 was that has been mentioned in several blogs and articles...


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    Re: Did the Big 12...

    Quote Originally Posted by cyclonenum1 View Post
    ...release their revenue numbers at the meetings?

    The SEC did at theirs:

    2theadvocate.com | Sports | SEC announces record payday — Baton Rouge, LA

    "The SEC will distribute about $209 million to its 12 league members, with each school receiving an average of $17.3 million.

    Broken down by categories, and rounded off, here are the revenue sources:

    Source - Millions
    Football TV - $109.5
    Bowls - $26.5
    SEC football title game - $14.5
    Basketball TV - $30.0
    SEC menís basketball tourney - $5.0
    NCAA championships - $23.5"

    You cannot deny the supreme importance of FB with a small secondary importance of MBB...everything else is folly.
    As far as a conference payout, I agree it goes football then basketball then everything else with football so far ahead. Within an AD sports like wrestling, wbb and volleyball are important. Every dollar you take in is a dollar you don't lose. That's important.


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    Re: Did the Big 12...

    Agreed, every sport besides FB and BB are just trying to lose less.




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    Re: Did the Big 12...

    Quote Originally Posted by jbhtexas View Post
    Yes. $139 million in league generated revenue, up $9 million from last year.

    Big 12 hush-hush on realignment | The Columbia Daily Tribune - Columbia, Missouri

    Would be interesting to know what the new FOX/FSN offer to the Big 12 was that has been mentioned in several blogs and articles...
    So the SEC is dividing up a $209 million pie while the Big 12 is dividing up a $139 million pie.

    How big are the pies for the other major conferences...Big 10, Pac 10, ACC, and Big East? Does anyone have that for 2009?



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    Re: Did the Big 12...

    Quote Originally Posted by yaman3 View Post
    As far as a conference payout, I agree it goes football then basketball then everything else with football so far ahead. Within an AD sports like wrestling, wbb and volleyball are important. Every dollar you take in is a dollar you don't lose. That's important.
    But all of these sports are not revenue positive...all other sports beside FB and MBB LOSE MONEY...which means if we end up in a conference that provides less conference based revenue we are likely to see fewer sports...the mens ones will go first due to gender equity.



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    Re: Did the Big 12...

    Quote Originally Posted by cyclonenum1 View Post

    How big are the pies for the other major conferences...Big 10, Pac 10, ACC, and Big East? Does anyone have that for 2009?
    Here is TV revenue for the major conferences in 2009:

    Big Ten: $242
    SEC: $205
    Big 12: $78
    ACC: $67
    Pac 10: $58
    Big East: $33

    Link:
    CollegeSportsInfo.com: 2009 College Sports TV Revenue by Conference


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    Re: Did the Big 12...

    Although this data is dated (2007-2008) it shows the top revenue producing football teams. The Iowa football team actually had more revenue than the top revenue producing football team from the Pac 10.

    How much revenue did your favorite Football Bowl Subdivision school take in in 2007-08? This chart will tell you – College Gridiron 365 Blog – Orlando Sentinel


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    Re: Did the Big 12...

    Quote Originally Posted by alaskaguy View Post
    Here is TV revenue for the major conferences in 2009:

    Big Ten: $242
    SEC: $205
    Big 12: $78
    ACC: $67
    Pac 10: $58
    Big East: $33

    Link:
    CollegeSportsInfo.com: 2009 College Sports TV Revenue by Conference

    Wow...huge gap between Big 10 and SEC and all the others.

    How long will it be before the SEC overtakes the Big 10? I firmly believe that will happen because of the population shifting to the south and because FB is religion in the SEC.



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    Re: Did the Big 12...

    The ACC just redid their contract from 67 Mil - 155. (that is a 7.33 mil increase for a league that is considered below the big12 in football) We should be able to get 170-180 Million when we renew if all members are there still.


    The thing I am confused on right now is the fact that it says we earned 78 mil in tv revenue, but the big 12 reports we recieved $139 mil in total revenue. So is that 61 million generated from bowl games, basketball , big12 championships etc...?

    If were to get 180 million for tv then that would equal 15 mil per school.
    The thing that makes the most sense for me is to use a reward system for how the money is split. So an example

    You have a $180 Mill TV Revenu pot.
    A team gets $1 million for winning the division
    A team gets $1 million for winning the Football Title.
    A team gets $1 Million for going to a BCS game.
    Put in a bowl game pick rule where teams can't leap frog another team that has 2 more wins)

    So that basically means teams like OU, UT and Neb are going to get more

    So then the TV money breaks down like this for the year:


    How does that get split up?
    1Texas 18
    2OU 16
    3TT 14.5
    4OSU 14.5
    5TT 14.5
    6BU 14.5

    1NU 16
    2Mizz 14.5
    3ISU 14.5
    4KSU 14.5
    5CU 14.5
    6KU 14.5

    180.5 (i didn't get too exact..)

    I did this quick and I don't know how the other money is split up other than the tv revenue, but if you could get teams like Texas, OU and Neb 15-18 million then that is SEC money. And if you get all the games on tv and the lower schools 14-15 million then I don't see what the issue is. You get to stay in your conference where its easy to travel and 11/12 schools are in the same time zone. Would that be enough for teams to turn down 20-22 million to stay intact and not have to travel more etc.

    Maybe I am way off base with this, I am really tired..


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    Re: Did the Big 12...

    Quote Originally Posted by alaskaguy View Post
    Here is TV revenue for the major conferences in 2009:

    Big Ten: $242
    SEC: $205
    Big 12: $78
    ACC: $67
    Pac 10: $58
    Big East: $33

    Link:
    CollegeSportsInfo.com: 2009 College Sports TV Revenue by Conference
    When looking at these numbers why didn't the Big XII go after AZ & ASU instead ending up with the PAC 10 robbing the Big XII? Beebe better be unemployed in a few weeks because if somehow the Big XII survives it was not because of Beebe it was dispite of Beebe.



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