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    Hillman fired in KC

    Just announced on 610 after game. Ed yost hired



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    Re: Hillman fired in KC

    I meant Ned yost



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    Re: Hillman fired in KC

    Quote Originally Posted by kcclones View Post
    I meant Ned yost
    Should've kept Hillman.



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    Re: Hillman fired in KC

    If the Royals are ever going to win, they need new ownership that wants to keep the talented players, not a new manager.



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    Re: Hillman fired in KC

    Quote Originally Posted by brett108 View Post
    If the Royals are ever going to win, they need new ownership that wants to keep the talented players, not a new manager.
    Unfortunately, this is true.



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    Re: Hillman fired in KC

    Quote Originally Posted by brett108 View Post
    If the Royals are ever going to win, they need new ownership that wants to keep the talented players, not a new manager.
    Actually the Royals have not lost a good free agent in several years. They signed both Greinke and Soria to long term contracts before they reached free agency. Ownership, while still not great, has improved.

    I agree that the Royals would still be a losing team with any other manager. However, Hillman did not improve their chances of winning, and if anything, made it worse. The Royals were one of (if not the) the worst fundamental team in the history of baseball last season, and that is supposed to be Hillman's forte.

    Plus, he says ridiculous things like this:

    "Soria was available for a 4 out save, but not a 5-out save."

    "We couldn't pitch Soria today because he had too much rest."

    He took a bad team and at best didn't improve the team, and probably made it worse.

    Much of the teams issues have been caused by Dayton Moore and his terrible acquisitions at the major league level. Someday he will learn that it is better to spend 12M on one good free agent than 4 M on 3 free agents who are no better than replacement level players.



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    Re: Hillman fired in KC

    Quote Originally Posted by TarHeelHawk View Post
    Should've kept Hillman.
    You don't watch many Royals games, do you? It's not Hillman's fault that the Royals haven't had a winning season in countless years, but the guy was one of the worst in-game managers I have ever seen. The dude gives away outs with the sacrifice bunt every opportunity he gets and the way he utilizes what talent he does have on the 25-man roster is absurd. He had to go.

    So Brewers fans, what's the scoop on Yost? Does he like to play small ball or does he let his guys hit away? Can he handle a bullpen? And what is the story behind him getting the boot in Milwaukee during a playoff run?



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    Re: Hillman fired in KC

    Yeah, I'm sure it was the manager's fault...



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    Re: Hillman fired in KC

    Quote Originally Posted by CloneIce View Post
    Actually the Royals have not lost a good free agent in several years. They signed both Greinke and Soria to long term contracts before they reached free agency. Ownership, while still not great, has improved.

    I agree that the Royals would still be a losing team with any other manager. However, Hillman did not improve their chances of winning, and if anything, made it worse. The Royals were one of (if not the) the worst fundamental team in the history of baseball last season, and that is supposed to be Hillman's forte.

    Plus, he says ridiculous things like this:

    "Soria was available for a 4 out save, but not a 5-out save."

    "We couldn't pitch Soria today because he had too much rest."

    He took a bad team and at best didn't improve the team, and probably made it worse.

    Much of the teams issues have been caused by Dayton Moore and his terrible acquisitions at the major league level. Someday he will learn that it is better to spend 12M on one good free agent than 4 M on 3 free agents who are no better than replacement level players.
    Assuming that free agent isn't Jose Guillen.



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    Re: Hillman fired in KC

    Quote Originally Posted by shagcarpetjesus View Post
    You don't watch many Royals games, do you?
    Who does?



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    Re: Hillman fired in KC

    The timing of this is silly and shows the "genius" in KC's front office. Why in the world did they not make this move Sunday after they had lost 5 in a row and had an off day the next day?! Instead, they do it after a win.
    Like letting both Buck and Olivo go and do well in other cities so they can have Kendall as their catcher this just goes to show how terribly that team is run.



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    Re: Hillman fired in KC

    Quote Originally Posted by 06Panther View Post
    Who does?
    Thank you for your expert opinion on a move made by an organization that you pay no attention to.



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    Re: Hillman fired in KC

    Quote Originally Posted by andynel88 View Post
    The timing of this is silly and shows the "genius" in KC's front office. Why in the world did they not make this move Sunday after they had lost 5 in a row and had an off day the next day?! Instead, they do it after a win.
    Like letting both Buck and Olivo go and do well in other cities so they can have Kendall as their catcher this just goes to show how terribly that team is run.
    First of all, the Royals have dumped more money into the minor leagues and the big leagues than any other team in the AL central the past three years.

    Second they signed Greinke and Soria long term and are working on a deal with Butler. They are keeping there players, whoever said they aren't is just an idiot

    Buck and Olivio led the league in passed balls and were HORRIBLE at throwing runners out. At least kendell won't lose games like those two did.


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    Re: Hillman fired in KC

    Quote Originally Posted by brett108 View Post
    If the Royals are ever going to win, they need new ownership that wants to keep the talented players, not a new manager.
    Your dumb and have no idea what your talking about. Yes the manager was very bad, but they have signed the two best players long term, are working with Bulter and have dumped a ton of money into the minor leagues leading to the Royals having a top 10 rated minor league system.


    The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again. Oh... people will come Ray. People will most definitely come.

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    Re: Hillman fired in KC

    Quote Originally Posted by andynel88 View Post
    The timing of this is silly and shows the "genius" in KC's front office. Why in the world did they not make this move Sunday after they had lost 5 in a row and had an off day the next day?! Instead, they do it after a win.
    Like letting both Buck and Olivo go and do well in other cities so they can have Kendall as their catcher this just goes to show how terribly that team is run.
    The timing may be off, but it still needed to be done. The word in KC was that David Glass was getting royally pi$$ed with the way the team was playing so it wouldn't surprise me if this move was mandated by the owner. If it was up to Dayton Moore, I'm sure Hillman would have been around all season & then let go in the offseason. The timing seems weird because I don't think Moore was planning to do this, it looks like he had his hand forced by ownership.



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