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    Re: Jarrod Uthoff info & video...

    I would really like to get this kid. This is a SOLID Iowa Basketball player. First things first... we HAVE to win Iowa Recruiting. It's the same in every sport. Win Iowa first. Start to branch out to close regional states.

    The difference between recruiting Iowa for Football and recuriting Iowa for basketball is, the state of Iowa continually puts out GREAT b-ball talent. You can build a program around just Iowa kids like Uthoff.



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    Re: Way to break the case Sherlocks

    Quote Originally Posted by azn4cy View Post
    I'd imagine Megan Fox has better things to do than look at message boards waiting for someone to make a comment about a bad picture of her, just like Uthoff has better things to do than take offense to a critique of the video, not even him as a player.
    The patented response of those that cast aspersions. Thus, absolving themselves of any responsibility.



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    Re: Jarrod Uthoff info & video...

    Quote Originally Posted by Clonegrad07 View Post
    You can build a program around just Iowa kids like Uthoff.
    I don't think you can build a program around them, but you can certainly utilize them in shaping your team. Presently, the talent in-state is probably good enough to build a team around, but for the majority of the time, I do think you need your share of Iowa kids, but not too many.



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    Re: Jarrod Uthoff info & video...

    Quote Originally Posted by Clonegrad07 View Post
    I would really like to get this kid. This is a SOLID Iowa Basketball player. First things first... we HAVE to win Iowa Recruiting. It's the same in every sport. Win Iowa first. Start to branch out to close regional states.

    The difference between recruiting Iowa for Football and recuriting Iowa for basketball is, the state of Iowa continually puts out GREAT b-ball talent. You can build a program around just Iowa kids like Uthoff.
    You cant just have iowa kids you still need out of state players to find more athleticism. Theres not much in iowa



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    Re: Way to break the case Sherlocks

    Quote Originally Posted by mt85 View Post
    The patented response of those that cast aspersions. Thus, absolving themselves of any responsibility.
    Well, the problem here is that your OLD argument is that message boards hurt recruiting if recruits see negative things written about them. We're not even arguing that.

    Nobody in this thread is saying that Uthoff sucks, etc. Just that the video is less than flattering of his real skills. Even if he does read these boards, he can hardly perceive that as a slight to his basketball ability, just to the video editing skills of the guy who put it out.



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    Re: Jarrod Uthoff info & video...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cydkar View Post
    Is there a rule in AAU ball against using your right hand?
    I'm assuming he was guarded by the Dread Pirate Robert?



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    Re: Jarrod Uthoff info & video...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cydkar View Post
    Is there a rule in AAU ball against using your right hand?
    Yes.
    Peter sprained his hand, that's all.



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    Re: Jarrod Uthoff info & video...

    Quote Originally Posted by CrossCyed View Post
    I think Jarrod would be asked to be a 3 for ISU, and that's not exactly what he's asked to play right now.
    False. On his AAU team he plays the 3. On his high school team he plays post though.



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    Re: Jarrod Uthoff info & video...

    That missed alley-oop on the video was over me, by the way. Oops :)



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    Re: Jarrod Uthoff info & video...

    CIMD, what do you think our odds are of landing Jok?



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    Re: Jarrod Uthoff info & video...

    Quote Originally Posted by CloneIce View Post
    I'm assuming he was guarded by the Dread Pirate Robert?
    Now THAT's funny.


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    Re: Jarrod Uthoff info & video...

    Quote Originally Posted by CloneState1028 View Post
    I don't think you can build a program around them, but you can certainly utilize them in shaping your team. Presently, the talent in-state is probably good enough to build a team around, but for the majority of the time, I do think you need your share of Iowa kids, but not too many.
    All these guys completely disagree with you...

    Jess Settles, Raef LaFrentz, Fred Hoiberg, Dean Oliver, Nick Collison, Kirk Hinrich, Glen Worley, Greg Brunner, Adam Haluska, Jeff Horner, Brooks McKowen, Ben Jacobson, Jim Binnie, Jason Bohannon, Jordan Egelseder, Ali Faroukmanesh, Harrison Barnes, Jarod Uthoff, Marcus Paige, Adam Woodbury, Wes Staten, Peter Jok



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    Re: Way to break the case Sherlocks

    Quote Originally Posted by swarthmoreCY View Post
    This is recruiting...
    It all goes back to how one views of the impact of message boards/fan support in recruiting. If you feel it has anything above zero impact, why not just hold the thoughts to a private forum?
    It's all tickle fights and rainbows.

    If a kid is going to base where he goes to college on how a bunch message board posters reviewed his video, I don't want him to go to school here and he probably won't be eligible anyway.



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    Re: Jarrod Uthoff info & video...

    Quote Originally Posted by Clonegrad07 View Post
    All these guys completely disagree with you...

    Jess Settles, Raef LaFrentz, Fred Hoiberg, Dean Oliver, Nick Collison, Kirk Hinrich, Glen Worley, Greg Brunner, Adam Haluska, Jeff Horner, Brooks McKowen, Ben Jacobson, Jim Binnie, Jason Bohannon, Jordan Egelseder, Ali Faroukmanesh, Harrison Barnes, Jarod Uthoff, Marcus Paige, Adam Woodbury, Wes Staten, Peter Jok
    How can you put guys up there that haven't competed at the college level yet? Do you think McKowen, Jacobson, Binnie, Egelseder, and Ali would have done anything at the Big 10 or Big 12 level?
    Iowa kids are a nice supplement to out of state recruits.



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    Re: Jarrod Uthoff info & video...

    Quote Originally Posted by ISU42 View Post
    How can you put guys up there that haven't competed at the college level yet? Do you think McKowen, Jacobson, Binnie, Egelseder, and Ali would have done anything at the Big 10 or Big 12 level?
    Iowa kids are a nice supplement to out of state recruits.
    I actually think that a team could compete COMPLETELY with Iowa kids. But the key is that you have to get ALL of the good ones and not miss out on late bloomers like Korver, Jacobson and Funk. That's never going to happen, so the best bet is to get as many of the best Iowa kids as we can and then supplement with out of state kids and JUCOs.



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