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    Who's fired first: President of BP or Dan Beebe?

    Honest question. If Mizzou and NU leave, he gone!



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    Re: Who's fired first: President of BP or Dan Beebe?

    **** Dan Beebe




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    Re: Who's fired first: President of BP or Dan Beebe?

    Why should Dan Beebe be fired? He doesn't run the Big 12.


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    Re: Who's fired first: President of BP or Dan Beebe?

    Quote Originally Posted by jbhtexas View Post
    Why should Dan Beebe be fired? He doesn't run the Big 12.
    Well he will be one of a handfull of guys!



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    Re: Who's fired first: President of BP or Dan Beebe?

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIGuy4Cy View Post
    Well he will be one of a handfull of guys!
    And who else? The University presidents? And you didn't answer the question...why should Beebe be fired?


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    Re: Who's fired first: President of BP or Dan Beebe?

    Quote Originally Posted by jbhtexas View Post
    And who else? The University presidents? And you didn't answer the question...why should Beebe be fired?
    Why wouldnt he? He is the commissioner, the operator, of the Big 12. His job is to keep the conference functioning. NU is the 3rd biggest team in the Big 12. You think Roger Gooddell would keep his job if Pittsburg and GB went the to UFL?



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    Re: Who's fired first: President of BP or Dan Beebe?

    I think what jbhtexas is getting at is the fact that the things that we don't like in the conference, such as revenue sharing, are in the AD's control. Even the Current TV contract, Beebe had no, or little part in that because it was the previous AD who signed that contract. Beebe can only wait until the contract is up before he can do anything.



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    Re: Who's fired first: President of BP or Dan Beebe?

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIGuy4Cy View Post
    Why wouldnt he? He is the commissioner, the operator, of the Big 12. His job is to keep the conference functioning. NU is the 3rd biggest team in the Big 12. You think Roger Gooddell would keep his job if Pittsburg and GB went the to UFL?
    You should probably speak with Kevin Weiberg, or perhaps read a couple of the interviews with him after he resigned from the Big 12 commissioner post, and then read the Big 12 handbook. Whether or not the Big 12 survives is in the hands of the University presidents, because they are the ones who decide the issues of expansion, revenue distribution, and major TV deals. Beebe can only make suggestions.


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    Re: Who's fired first: President of BP or Dan Beebe?

    Quote Originally Posted by jbhtexas View Post
    You should probably speak with Kevin Weiberg, or perhaps read a couple of the interviews with him after he resigned from Big 12 commissioner post, and then read the Big 12 handbook. Whether or not the Big 12 survives is in the hands of the University presidents, because they are the ones who decide the issues of expansion, revenue distribution, and major TV deals.
    I understand the Presidents get ultimate control. I always thought that the presidents tell their AD's what they want and the AD's act in the interest of the Presidents.



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    Re: Who's fired first: President of BP or Dan Beebe?

    And I know, that Beebe is not the sole decision maker. It is like a company, the board of directors (Universities) tell the CEO (Beebe) what to do; while Beebe runs the day to day operations.



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    Re: Who's fired first: President of BP or Dan Beebe?

    Quote Originally Posted by SCNCY View Post
    I understand the Presidents get ultimate control. I always thought that the presidents tell their AD's what they want and the AD's act in the interest of the Presidents.
    Yes, the presidents do work through the ADs for many things. The point is, as you mentioned above, that Beebe has little control over the major decisions made for the conference, yet he is ignorantly and continually ripped on this site for things he has no control over.

    If you want to rip Beebe for his statement last winter about the "bowl-hopping", fine, go ahead. But don't rip the guy for making/not making decisions beyond his purview of authority.


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    Re: Who's fired first: President of BP or Dan Beebe?

    Quote Originally Posted by jbhtexas View Post
    Yes, the presidents do work through the ADs for many things. The point is, as you mentioned above, that Beebe has little control over the major decisions made for the conference, yet he is ignorantly and continually ripped on this site for things he has no control over.

    If you want to rip Beebe for his statement last winter about the "bowl-hopping", fine, go ahead. But don't rip the guy for making/not making decisions beyond his purview of authority.
    I agree with you, I think Beebe gets ripped on too much for things he cannot control. I don't hate the guy, but he hasn't exactly done great things for the conference, hopefully that changes with the talk regarding the Pac10/Big12 alliance.



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    Re: Who's fired first: President of BP or Dan Beebe?

    Quote Originally Posted by SCNCY View Post
    I don't hate the guy, but he hasn't exactly done great things for the conference
    The conference has not done great things for the conference...which is not surprising given how new it is. It is a fine line between doing what is best for Texas, OU, NU (maybe A&M too), and what is best for the Big 12.
    Think if the Big 10 started in 1996. The power would largely be with Ohio State, Penn State, and Michigan. If an established conference like the ACC made a move for those three, along with a move for Rutgers, Pitt, etc.....



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    Re: Who's fired first: President of BP or Dan Beebe?

    Still Beebe's job to keep the conference together and the league satisfied. Its his responsibility to look out for the good of the conference as a whole and if anyone thinks he has done that, they have serious issues. If this league falls apart, the ADs will clean house and I would bet all my credits on that.



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    Re: Who's fired first: President of BP or Dan Beebe?

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIGuy4Cy View Post
    Still Beebe's job to keep the conference together and the league satisfied.
    One of the main things that would keep the league "satisfied" requires 75% approval by the university presidents.

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIGuy4Cy View Post
    Its his responsibility to look out for the good of the conference as a whole and if anyone thinks he has done that, they have serious issues.
    The ones with "serious issues" are those who keep ripping the man for things he can't control.

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIGuy4Cy View Post
    If this league falls apart, the ADs will clean house and I would bet all my credits on that.
    And you would lose all your credits, because the ADs don't hire/fire the commissioner. Besides, Beebe (like Weiberg) would resign long before he's fired.


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