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    So how did your team do in the NFL Draft?

    I was watching ESPN and I saw NFL Draft "Expert" Mel Kiper grading each team's draft. It got me thinking:

    What do you think about your favorite NFL team's draft (and why)?


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    Re: So how did your team do in the NFL Draft?

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    Re: So how did your team do in the NFL Draft?

    I think the Vikes got great value with their picks. Most of the draft picks were rated quite a bit higher than where they were picked. But some of them were injury risks or inconsistent.

    I think that Adrian Peterson and the wide receivers are going to do well in the Brad Childress west-coast offense.

    I'd give them a B+.



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    Re: So how did your team do in the NFL Draft?

    i'm a dolphin fan...nuff said


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    Re: So how did your team do in the NFL Draft?

    Here is a good story - fellow from Miss area.

    For N.F.L. Draft, the Biggest (XXXXXXL) Sleeper
    Jessica Kourkounis for The New York Times
    Walter Thomas, a 370-pound tackle, can do flips and cartwheels.

    By LEE JENKINS
    Published: April 25, 2007
    GALVESTON, Tex., April 21 — On the edge of the Texas Gulf is a 370-pound football player who can execute a perfect forward flip.

    Walter Thomas, 21, can bench-press 475 pounds and squat 800.



    When he lands, the ground trembles.
    The player’s name is Walter Thomas, and as he kicked his size 16 feet overhead Saturday morning, onlookers studied the sculpted giant with curiosity and awe. It was the kind of reaction Thomas usually elicits from professional football scouts.
    “I feel like I’m a big secret,” Thomas said. “The secret of the draft.”
    The National Football League draft, which begins Saturday, does not really have secrets anymore. Prospects are timed and tested, interviewed and investigated, over and over again. Entire dossiers are prepared for second-string players.
    Thomas is as close as modern football can come to an old-fashioned sleeper. In the past two years, his only playing experience was at Northwest Mississippi Community College in Senatobia, Miss. He played in two games, both losses. Then he was arrested on a charge of conspiracy to commit robbery, according to the Tate County (Miss.) Circuit Clerk’s office, and never played college football again.
    Judging by his credentials, perhaps Thomas should not be drafted. Judging by his dimensions, however, Thomas has to be drafted.
    Big Walt, as he is known, is a 6-foot-5 defensive tackle who wears a size XXXXXXL jersey. He bench presses 475 pounds and squats 800 pounds. Weight lifters at the Galveston Health and Racquet Club stop their workouts to watch him.
    Football teams everywhere are filled with big men, but many of them can barely move. Thomas has run the 40-yard dash in 4.9 seconds, faster than some N.F.L. tight ends. He is the rare tackle who can catch a running back from behind.
    “The guy is a dadgum Russian gymnast,” said Randy Pippin, the head coach at Northwest Mississippi.
    Thomas’s flexibility has become part of his lore. He does handstands and handsprings, broad jumps and cartwheels. When he gets excited, he will do a back flip.
    “I never thought a body that big could flip in the air,” said Ron Holmes, who coached Thomas at Ball High School in Galveston. “I wouldn’t have believed it unless I’d seen it with my own two eyes.”
    Three months ago, Thomas was little more than a novelty act. He declared for the draft as a 21-year-old junior, but unlike most underclassmen heading to the N.F.L., he had no highlight reel to send scouts and few statistics for them to analyze. The Web site nfldraftscout.com ranked him as the 74th-best defensive tackle.
    “It was a different situation,” said Martin Magid, Thomas’s agent. “He was coming from the basement.”
    Magid, who represents several professional football players, lobbied for Thomas to be included in a predraft all-star game called Texas vs. The Nation. When the workouts for that game began, Thomas was an afterthought. When they ended, he was an Internet phenomenon.
    Draftniks found a new darling. Bloggers were breathless. Draftdaddy.com reported that Thomas was “unstoppable” and “nimble” and “drew reactions ranging from gasps to smiles to a simple shake of the head in disbelief.”
    In the draft evaluation process, workouts are nearly as important as games, and Thomas is a workout wonder. He was invited to Mississippi State’s annual Pro Day and seized much of the attention, even though he did not attend Mississippi State.
    N.F.L. scouts, always on the lookout for that unique blend of size and agility, were seduced by a dancing goliath. This month, Thomas was ranked as the 15th-best defensive tackle in the draft. He hopes to pattern himself after the N.F.L. tackles Ted Washington (6-5, 365 pounds) of the Cleveland Browns and Jamal Williams (6-3, 348) of the San Diego Chargers.
    “He is definitely a topic of conversation right now,” said Gil Brandt, former vice president for player personnel for the Dallas Cowboys, who is now an analyst for NFL.com. “A lot of people are talking about him.”
    Thomas represents the hard choice that every team faces at some point on draft day — to pick a player with supreme physical ability and a questionable past, or to go with a player who has limited talent but a proven track record.
    Thomas would not be such a secret in the draft if he had not buried himself in college. He played at Oklahoma State as a freshman in 2004, but failed out of school before his sophomore season. He spent 2005 trying to regain his academic eligibility and went to Northwest Mississippi in 2006.
    “People like to tell me, ‘As big as you are, you’ll always get another chance,’ ” Thomas said. “But I think I’ve used up all my chances.”
    Thomas acts contrite and gentle, but his behavior can still be erratic. An interview for this story was scheduled for Friday morning in Galveston. Thomas arrived early Saturday, apologizing profusely that he confused the dates.
    Thomas was accompanied by Martha Overton, a 54-year-old whom he calls his second mother. Thomas went to school with Overton’s daughter, Elizabeth, and steadily ingratiated himself in her family. Now, he appears in all of their Christmas pictures. When he leaves Martha Overton’s sight, he gives her two bearhugs.
    “Walter has a lot of people who care for him very deeply,” Martha Overton said.
    Thomas needs the support system, especially in the new N.F.L. Commissioner Roger Goodell recently announced a personal-conduct policy that threatens teams for repeatedly signing troublemakers. When Thomas visited the Jets, the Dolphins and the Browns, they grilled him about his arrest, he said.

    He might as well have answered in rhyme. Thomas stars in a Galveston hip- hop group called Tre Side, and he recently wrote a rap about football, the mistakes he has made and his desire to correct them.
    Brody Schmidt/Associated Press
    Thomas played his freshman season at Oklahoma State, but has played only two games at a community college in the past two years.


    From the stereo of his first car, a Ford Expedition that he picked up Friday, Thomas blasted one of his raps. He repeats the same line in a husky baritone: “I’m tired of wasting time.”



    As a prospect, Thomas is intriguing because of both his baggage and his potential. In the two games he did play last season, his numbers were mind-blowing: 16 tackles, 9 tackles for a loss and 4 sacks.
    “You absolutely cannot run at him,” said Les Miles, the Louisiana State University coach, who recruited Thomas to Oklahoma State. “You have to go in another direction.”
    Thomas cannot expect to be picked until the second day of the draft — rounds four through seven — but he should immediately become one of the biggest players in the league, and probably the biggest player on his new team.
    Thomas has always been the largest guy in the room. In the fifth grade, he was barred from Pop Warner games in Galveston because parents felt he had an unfair advantage. By the time he entered Austin Middle School, he was pushing 300 pounds.
    “He took up a whole side of the line,” said Jim Yarborough, a Galveston County judge whose son played against Austin Middle School.
    More than any specific game, Yarborough remembers the first time he shook hands with Thomas. “It was like he swallowed my whole hand,” Yarborough said.
    Growing up, Thomas was somewhat self-conscious about his size, so he befriended the smallest kids in school. They played a game called “Cut the Cake,” in which they found the biggest building in town and raced each other around it.
    Today, Thomas still has many of the same friends, and few of them weigh more than 150 pounds. He could bench-press three of them at a time.
    “That’s where I got my speed,” Thomas said. “I had to keep up with all those little guys.”
    To demonstrate, Thomas took off his size 16 sneakers, slid into a white tank top and did one of his forward flips on the grass next to a beachfront apartment building. He stuck the landing. The expression on his face was part grimace and part grin.
    A man watching from his apartment balcony came running. The man wore an Ohio State T-shirt and had many questions. Who is this specimen? Does he play football? Would he be interested in going to college at Ohio State?
    But Thomas was already in his Expedition, driving down Seawall Boulevard, blasting music by the rapper Slim Thug, another performer who is not particularly slim.
    For a few more days, Thomas can still keep himself a secret.


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    Re: So how did your team do in the NFL Draft?

    I watch the vikes and I think they got a good pick in AP but I wonder if they should have taken Quinn. I dont know if Tavarian Jackson (sp?) is the answer at QB. I will be watching to see how Quinn does.



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    Re: So how did your team do in the NFL Draft?

    Quote Originally Posted by zumbro clones View Post
    I think the Vikes got great value with their picks. Most of the draft picks were rated quite a bit higher than where they were picked. But some of them were injury risks or inconsistent.

    I think that Adrian Peterson and the wide receivers are going to do well in the Brad Childress west-coast offense.

    I'd give them a B+.
    check out Arkee Whitlock
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    Disappointed in my Packers and other teams not seeing the value in Deandre


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    Re: So how did your team do in the NFL Draft?

    I give my Cowboys two grades...

    Strictly looking at 2007: B-/C+
    Players drafted plus trades made: A-

    Dallas didn't do much to address areas of need, corner and receiver. Henry and Glenn are not getting any younger, plus they showed signs of weakness last season. T.O. and Glenn are not exactly young pups as well and behind them Crayton has shown some signs of good things yet nothing consistent yet.

    I like Spencer, could be a great get should he continue to build on that senior season at Purdue. He would've been a top 10ish pick had his senior season not been the only one with great production. So, we'll find out if he was a one-year wonder or a college athlete that didn't come into his own until the final year - a guy that will continue to improve. The best part of this pick was trading up with none other than Philadelphia to get him. A guy that will be chasing the Eagles very own McNabb. Can't be that - silly Philly.

    None of the other picks impressed me. If Dallas was going to take a receiver, I thought the could've done something with the 2nd round pick instead of using it on a QB they'll convert to WR. Not too impressed with that lineman they took in the 2nd round - but - we'll see.

    Looking at their draft picks plus what they picked up in the draft for '08 - I'm very excited. Yet again, Dallas has two 1st round picks in a draft one of them surely to be a high pick. So many different directions they can go. Could put them in great position for the '08 season.



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    Re: So how did your team do in the NFL Draft?

    Carolina rocked. Dallas dozed.


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    Re: So how did your team do in the NFL Draft?

    Quote Originally Posted by cowboycurtis View Post
    I watch the vikes and I think they got a good pick in AP but I wonder if they should have taken Quinn. I dont know if Tavarian Jackson (sp?) is the answer at QB. I will be watching to see how Quinn does.

    I was listening to a the Twin Cities' local Sports Talk station the day before the draft and they were interviewing a guy who puts all draft prospects through an unbelievable amount of both physical & mental tests in order to help teams better evaluate the prospects. Some of the tests were absolutely crazy. (ex: backs and receivers have to try to avoid a dog chasing them for 25 yards, which supposedly shows how well they can elude defenders)

    Did you know that about 70% of the draftees have had GPS chips implanted in thier arms so teams can trace their whereabouts over the course of the athletes' college careers? This helps teams pick based upon character issues according to the way athletes spend their free time.

    Anyway, after literally hundreds of tests on every player, this guy rated Brady Quinn as the most overrated player in the draft....

    I for one, am glad that the Vikes got AP instead of Quinn.



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    Re: So how did your team do in the NFL Draft?

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    Re: So how did your team do in the NFL Draft?

    Chiefs no better than a C. Got a WR but not sure he's got the speed to be high profile. Also some of the other picks baffled me. Got 2 guys for the D-Line but one was a DE I believe and they already have Allen and Hali there. They didn't take any defensive backs and the secondary is getting old with Law and Surtain. Could have used a young CB. Picked up an OT and TE in the last 2 rounds, the OL needs some work but do the Chiefs really need another TE when they have Gonzo, Dunn, and Wilson?

    I don't know, Chiefs drafts always seem to baffle everyone. Apparently they must be getting rid of Tynes by drafting Medlock in the 5th round. Some think he might be better than Mason Crosby. Hopefully the Chiefs can shore up the O-Line and secondary some in free agency.



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    Re: So how did your team do in the NFL Draft?

    My Packers got what looks to be some decent players. Unfortunately, they didn't really fit into what they needed most. They better hope some of these guys can step up and shine quickly or it may be a long year. They needed some offensive playmakers and they didn't get a one.



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    Re: So how did your team do in the NFL Draft?

    Steelers a B-. Coach said they will emphasize defense, and their first 3 picks were LB, LB and punter. But they way they are constructed offensively, no way in heck they beat the Ravens next year.



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